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  • drydm
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    Originally posted by KittyCat View Post
    Hi drydm I've not heard of cancer risks with IPL, where have you read this please?

    Cat
    I did some research on that. For example here are some studies:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...Dterm%20risks.

    So I was wondering if your specialist told you anything about long term risks. My doctor said that he wasn't aware of any cancer-related problems.

    Yes gilles in summer, in Mediterranean countries especially, my skin condition as well as eye condition are improved a lot. That is why I'm thinking to give IPL a chance. I suppose my condition - dry eye, rosacea- is much allergy-related. All that medication that I used for dry eyes (dozens of moisturizing drops, ointments, steroid drops, antibiotics) made rosacea and allergy so much worse. So now I'm struggling with a lot of eyelid allergy/ rosacea rather than dry eyes. So I need either move to Mediterranean countries or to try IPL.

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    Hi Cat
    How many PULSES you have received per session?
    I remember mine was only 10 max. from E-Eye, the IPL you have.
    Thank you.

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  • gilles
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    Originally posted by KittyCat View Post
    Hi drydm I've not heard of cancer risks with IPL, where have you read this please?

    I do have a prominent red vein in my left eye, it hasn't made a difference so far I'm afraid! But to be honest, that's the least of my own personal concerns. I'm just glad my eyes no longer sting and burn all the time and I feel like my former self again!

    Cat
    IPL, intense pulsed light, is strong enough light (just like e.g. UV light) to make property changes to the skin, just like sunlight (UV light) would. The intensity could be dangerous, just like with UV light.
    If I am not mistaken, IPL started out with people who suffered from rosacea and found out that it helped for their dry eyes also. So the light will change/thin the blood vessels (inflammation/immune reaction problem), which is especially beneficial for people suffering from facial rosacea. [It MIGHT also dry out and affect the sebum in the glands, which is why people with acné have a better skin in the summer.]

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  • KittyCat
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    Hi drydm I've not heard of cancer risks with IPL, where have you read this please?

    I do have a prominent red vein in my left eye, it hasn't made a difference so far I'm afraid! But to be honest, that's the least of my own personal concerns. I'm just glad my eyes no longer sting and burn all the time and I feel like my former self again!

    Cat

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  • drydm
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    Hi KittyCat ,

    Goot to hear IPL works for you!
    Did you have red veins in your eyes? If so, did IPL improve it?

    Did your doctor mention any cancer risks? I read about some concerns about it.

    I'm thinking to go for IPL as well in London.

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  • KittyCat
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    gilles Yeah I've read so much about IPL and the general consensus about why it works is just a collective shrug from the doctor's isn't it! No one really knows why it works, so perhaps it is the manual expression that's the active treatment, and the IPL is just the thing that heats up the glands? Who knows, but for me, whatever it's doing, it's working! It's either a VERY expensive manual expression, or the IPL is somehow reducing inflammation. But I'm just so glad I took a gamble and sought it out.
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  • gilles
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    It feels so good to read about somebody who found a success! I'm sure it gives hope to a lot of people on this forum.

    I'm intrigued by how much the manual expression (unblocking) has helped compared to the light therapy (e.i., IPL). Because if the effectiveness of manual expression could be proven as a treatment, I'm sure a lot of hospitals would consider and implement it as standard treatment. I think light therapy (and also Lipiflow) is the part that pushed my doctor away from it. He explained that the science behind it is mostly pharma industry driven (money).

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    Congratulations. I'm so happy that it has worked for you

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  • KittyCat
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    Second Treatment Update!

    Hi everyone, I've just returned home from my second IPL treatment, and I have to say I'm pretty emotional!
    For the 2 weeks between 1st and 2nd treatment my eyes have been completely normal (apart from the last 2 days where I could feel the treatment wearing off a bit). When I say normal, I mean every day I've either used no eye drops at all, or maybe 1 or 2 on a couple of days. I felt completely normal, like pre-dry eye days! So I was so curious to see what state clinically my eyes were in.
    My eye doctor looked at my eyes and said "no wonder you've been feeling so good, your oils are flowing nice and clear!" I just burst into tears, I was so relieved! And this is only after the first treatment! My right eye is completely normal now, and my left eye (the eye I feel symptoms in) is still a bit greasy but still improved after just the first treatment. I seem to have responded really well to IPL! These effects should only get better and better now. I'm not on any medication whatsoever, just compresses and occasional eye drops. I'm so happy I did this. Why this isn't available on the NHS I will never know. IPL is brilliant, and I know it won't suit everyone, but for those who haven't tried it yet as part of their arsenal of treatments, it might have the same impact it's had on me (because why not?!). Life-changing.

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  • KittyCat
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    Originally posted by gilles View Post
    That's great news! I really hope for you that this will have a lasting effect!
    Did they express your glands after the IPL procedure?

    What is the maintenance routine now? Still heat treatment and lid hygiene and ointment at night?
    Do you still do blink exercises?
    Hi Gilles! Yes Alison expresses upper and lower glands for me, lower is done with the metal implement and upper is done with her fingers.

    I still use my warm compress twice per day, and I have an app on my phone that reminds me to do my blink exercises! I actually don't use ointment at night, and although I go to bed with my EyeSeals on, they're always on the floor when I wake up so I must take them off when I'm sleeping! Even so, after IPL my eyes no longer feel bad when waking. It really has been life changing for me.

    Cat

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  • KittyCat
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    Originally posted by LindaDawn View Post
    What hot compresses ar3 younusing?
    Hi Linda! I use the EyeDoctor rice bag compress, 30 seconds in the microwave!

    Cat xx

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  • KittyCat
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    Hi Cat

    Is it the clinic you visit? If so, which doctor do you visit?
    https://www.bbroptometry.co.uk/eyecare/tear-clinic/
    If so, their IPL is E-Eye. so curious to know if they do the whole face, upper lids or just ears to ears.

    They seems to be professional - Initial 40-minute consultation

    Did they also perform sodium fluorescein and/or lissamine green dyes in your eyes?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOd1T7quu2o&t=18s

    Thank you.
    Hello! Yes it's the Tear Clinic I go to, and the lovely doctor I see is Alison. I can't remember if they did the dye tests or if they just do a slit lamp exam as well as tear osmolarity and gland exam (expression to see the state of the glands). They take infra red photos to see what the glands look like too. It's very thorough! I highly recommend.

    Cat

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  • gilles
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    That's great news! I really hope for you that this will have a lasting effect!
    Did they express your glands after the IPL procedure?

    What is the maintenance routine now? Still heat treatment and lid hygiene and ointment at night?
    Do you still do blink exercises?
    Last edited by gilles; 19-Aug-2020, 11:29.

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    Hi Cat

    Is it the clinic you visit? If so, which doctor do you visit?
    https://www.bbroptometry.co.uk/eyecare/tear-clinic/
    If so, their IPL is E-Eye. so curious to know if they do the whole face, upper lids or just ears to ears.

    They seems to be professional - Initial 40-minute consultation

    Did they also perform sodium fluorescein and/or lissamine green dyes in your eyes?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOd1T7quu2o&t=18s

    Thank you.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Hi Cat

    Thanks so much for sharing the great news.

    IPL
    Is E-Eye or Lumenis, Optima, M22?
    Did doctor perform upper lids and whole face or just ears to ears?
    Did doctor express glands after IPL?


    Thanks again.

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