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    It's been a while since I posted anything to this forum, but I think I have something worth saying for a change ; ) I've seen several posts related to an article about Dr. Perry Rosenthal's exploration of lacosamide eye drops as a means of easing pain experienced by those suffering from corneal neuropathy (read the short article here).

    I had lasik surgery done on both eyes a few weeks after I turned 18. That was 3.5 years ago, but it feels like it's been a decade. Lasik truly changed my life, but you all know how that goes. It took some time for me to realize that the pain was permanent, but about six months post-op, I begain seeking help. My parents were a great help to me in seeking adequate treatment. We tried everything: restasis, Rebecca's rice baggy (thank you, Rebecca, for the fine product. I keep it in the freezer), fish/flaxseed oil, herbal treatment, Boston sclerals, blood serum drops, goggles, pain meds (most notably Lyrica), and of course, every OTC eye drop on the market. I traveled to three major cities and visited several specialists. It's been a journey that has tested my strength, nerves, character, and my faith. I suspect the pain will continue to be a test. It's likely that none of this is new to any of you.

    Having learned through various treatments and others' testimonials that the pain persists due to a neuropathic condition, rather than mere dryness, was a breakthrough in itself. This article accurately depicts to doctors why a young, healthy-looking guy w/ average tear film is complaining of such horrendous pain. I've taken a copy to several doctors in the hopes that it gives my words some credibility.

    The positive effect of taking Lyrica was one of the indicators that the pain was neuropathic, but time and varying dosages revealed that the Lyrica brought many undesirable side effects. I found it difficult to remember things and focus. This affected my work. I became irritable, unsatisfied, and even depressed at times. This affected my personal life. So the Lyrica had to go, but I wanted to replace it with something, because it helped considerably with the eye pain.

    When I read the article, my doctor was willing to give the drops a try, so he/she sent the prescription to Leiter's pharmacy in California who mailed the drops in w/ a dry freeze pack. Though Dr. Rosenthal recommends using the drops in the sclerals, I found this difficult for several reasons. 1) If you fail to get a bubble-free insertion on the first try, you will lose lacosamide. 2) Inserting the lenses requires you to overfill the lenses, so when you mix the Unisol w/ the lacosamide drop, you don't know how much lacosamide is lost during insertion when the overfilled liquid spills over the edge of the lense. At any rate, the discomfort of the lenses persuaded me to go without them and use the drops once per day, as Leiter's suggested.

    So I currently take 1% concentration Lacosamide in the morning after breakfast, and my pain management specialist has slowly gotten me off Lyrica. I still use my wileyX Airrage glasses at work, because I use a computer for ten straight hours (Lots of people want to know why I wear "sunglasses" inside, so I often give them the short version of the story). I am rather certain that a topical treatment will not bring the negative side effects that the internal treatment of the Lyrica brought. So far, I'd say the drops are just as helpful as the Lyrica, but with no side effects. So it's not a silver bullet, but the drops are a must-try for lasik victims, in my opinion. I am hopeful that I might obtain approval from a doctor to take them twice or even three times per day. I am considering going back to Boston to see if there are any options given this new treatment. When I was there, I believe the doctors were under the impression that dryness was the problem, and the neuropathic roots had not yet been fully considered.

    Thanks for reading such a long post; I hope it was a help to you. I don't expect to ever find a cure this side of Heaven, but the things we find to help with the pain are best shared among ourselves for our collective benefit.
    2 Cor. 12:8-10

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    Originally posted by Eagle_39 View Post
    It's been a while since I posted anything to this forum, but I think I have something worth saying for a change ; ) I've seen several posts related to an article about Dr. Perry Rosenthal's exploration of lacosamide eye drops as a means of easing pain experienced by those suffering from corneal neuropathy (read the short article here).

    I had lasik surgery done on both eyes a few weeks after I turned 18. That was 3.5 years ago, but it feels like it's been a decade. Lasik truly changed my life, but you all know how that goes. It took some time for me to realize that the pain was permanent, but about six months post-op, I begain seeking help. My parents were a great help to me in seeking adequate treatment. We tried everything: restasis, Rebecca's rice baggy (thank you, Rebecca, for the fine product. I keep it in the freezer), fish/flaxseed oil, herbal treatment, Boston sclerals, blood serum drops, goggles, pain meds (most notably Lyrica), and of course, every OTC eye drop on the market. I traveled to three major cities and visited several specialists. It's been a journey that has tested my strength, nerves, character, and my faith. I suspect the pain will continue to be a test. It's likely that none of this is new to any of you.

    Having learned through various treatments and others' testimonials that the pain persists due to a neuropathic condition, rather than mere dryness, was a breakthrough in itself. This article accurately depicts to doctors why a young, healthy-looking guy w/ average tear film is complaining of such horrendous pain. I've taken a copy to several doctors in the hopes that it gives my words some credibility.

    The positive effect of taking Lyrica was one of the indicators that the pain was neuropathic, but time and varying dosages revealed that the Lyrica brought many undesirable side effects. I found it difficult to remember things and focus. This affected my work. I became irritable, unsatisfied, and even depressed at times. This affected my personal life. So the Lyrica had to go, but I wanted to replace it with something, because it helped considerably with the eye pain.

    When I read the article, my doctor was willing to give the drops a try, so he/she sent the prescription to Leiter's pharmacy in California who mailed the drops in w/ a dry freeze pack. Though Dr. Rosenthal recommends using the drops in the sclerals, I found this difficult for several reasons. 1) If you fail to get a bubble-free insertion on the first try, you will lose lacosamide. 2) Inserting the lenses requires you to overfill the lenses, so when you mix the Unisol w/ the lacosamide drop, you don't know how much lacosamide is lost during insertion when the overfilled liquid spills over the edge of the lense. At any rate, the discomfort of the lenses persuaded me to go without them and use the drops once per day, as Leiter's suggested.

    So I currently take 1% concentration Lacosamide in the morning after breakfast, and my pain management specialist has slowly gotten me off Lyrica. I still use my wileyX Airrage glasses at work, because I use a computer for ten straight hours (Lots of people want to know why I wear "sunglasses" inside, so I often give them the short version of the story). I am rather certain that a topical treatment will not bring the negative side effects that the internal treatment of the Lyrica brought. So far, I'd say the drops are just as helpful as the Lyrica, but with no side effects. So it's not a silver bullet, but the drops are a must-try for lasik victims, in my opinion. I am hopeful that I might obtain approval from a doctor to take them twice or even three times per day. I am considering going back to Boston to see if there are any options given this new treatment. When I was there, I believe the doctors were under the impression that dryness was the problem, and the neuropathic roots had not yet been fully considered.

    Thanks for reading such a long post; I hope it was a help to you. I don't expect to ever find a cure this side of Heaven, but the things we find to help with the pain are best shared among ourselves for our collective benefit.


    I am 23 and have been suffering with this "dry eye pain" for about 4 years now. I have never had Lasik and no doctors can figure out the cause or even a (temporary) cure; nothing seems to help. Like you, I have also tried Restasis, OTC drops/ointments galore, Warm Compresses/Massages, Night goggles, seen countless doctors in California, tried sclerals but did not have any relief during the trials, and now they are saying it could be some kind of ocular neurological issue (like you stated). The dry eye specialist prescribed me Lyrica but I refuse to take it; I don't like to be on medications and I have heard of all the terrible side effects.
    I am interested in this drop. Which doctor prescribed it? Do you still have relief from it? On a scale of 1-10, how well has it been working for you? Any negative side effects at all (even if you have not experienced any)? Any other information about the drop would be great! Thanks!

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    • #3
      I have never been on Lyrica but Gabapentin for 8 years now. I did decrease my dose this year from 1200mg 3X/day to 600mg 3X/day. I'm also on Cymbalta. I used to be praised for my memory but now I have to keep notes everywhere. I'll be in the middle of a conversation and forget the word I wanted to use. It's so frustrating. I used to feel pretty intelligent but now I doubt myself constantly. I can't say going down on the Gabapentin has improved anything. I'm just afraid the alternative is going back to severe, suicidal pain. After 8 years you get somewhat used to the ups and downs of this curse but there are days I just break. It's embarrassing to go out and have people watch me use eye drops, or wonder why you're wearing motorcycle glasses. It would be wonderful to think a medication used directly in the eye would help the pain without the side effects. It seems all we have is each other because it's nearly impossible to find out any new information anywhere else. I was asked to return to Boston Foundation for Sight but I declined. The last time I was there they wanted to try the Scrambler on me but I would have had to stop the Gabapentin altogether and that was too terrifying for me. Especially for something that may or may not work and the long term results difficult to predict.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by buntbean View Post
        It's embarrassing to go out and have people watch me use eye drops, or wonder why you're wearing motorcycle glasses.
        Just had to say that having people watch you use eyedrops should not be embarrassing, so try not to look at it that way - reframe it as you are doing what you need to do in order to LIVE. No different than anyone who opens their pill bottle and takes a dose of their blood pressure medication when out to dinner with friends.

        Things to be embarrassed about are rude behavior, lashing out at people, being hostile to others, being inconsiderate etc... but using eyedrops? No way! Maybe it would help you to think of it that way...

        re: motorcycle glasses - I can honestly say that after wearing these crazy things for a few years, I don't feel self-conscious in them all that often any more. I think spending a lot of time purposely forcing myself to act normal and "forget" that I am wearing them has helped to train me out of the whole self-conscious thing for the most part. Now, I see it as no different than the person who needs crutches to walk because they have a broken leg, or someone who needs a wheelchair, or someone who needs a cane. I don't think badly of those other people for needing those things to get through life, so odds are people aren't thinking anything bad about ME for wearing the crazy motorcycle glasses, right? And if they are, then screw them, they clearly must be a jerk! lol

        (I still have pangs from time to time, wishing I could look like the old me... the one who could wear makeup, and looked so much better than this girl in the goggles... but I guess that can't be helped... and on the bright side, we're all getting older, and the older we get, the more of our peers that will have odd little things that THEY have to do for their own problems to just live... they'll start having reading glasses hanging around their necks, their hair will start to thin and/or fall out, they'll get wrinkles and cataracts, their noses and ears will keep on growing bigger and BIGGER!, they'll be limping around with arthritis... we'll blend in better and better the older we get! ha! )

        Now, I'm certainly not all zen about wearing my clear-lens motorcycle glasses in public (although I did do it on Halloween once... err, and on national television once)... so I only wear those at home... but I'm happy to report that for the sunglasses-style ones, I'm mostly in a good place mentally when it comes to being seen in them, even in places where they really don't belong. With time, I think we all can get there!!!

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        • #5
          Thank you Saag!!

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          • #6
            Just letting Australian readers know that Lacosamide can be obtained through a very kind, skilled dry eye specialist ophthalmologist in Australia. He went through the correct channels via the TGA and has it compounded. If you want to give it a try you'll have to visit him, pvt me for his details if interested.

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            • #7
              I just wanted to add something to SAAG's comment about being embarrassed using drops or wearing motorcycle glasses in public. Don't be embarrassed about how you look or act because, in reality, most people don't think about you at all. Most people are concerned with themselves (and with their immediate fellows, family, friends etc.). Most people do not think about the way strangers look or act, except for maybe a few seconds.
              My wife now goes through airports with Tranquileyes goggles on in a wheelchair being pushed by an airport worker. We thought it would be embarrassing, but the first time we did it we realised pretty quickly that if anyone else noticed (which seemed to be exceptionally rare) they probably would have thought she needed the wheelchair and so would probably think kindly towards her. I think with the eye drops and motorcycle goggles, if people notice at all, they will probably just think you need to use these things and that is about the length of their thoughts concerning you.

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              • #8
                Hello,

                I am new here. I have corneal neuropathy and PROSE lenses and have found a lot of relief with them and lots of great information from everyone here. I tried lacosamide drops at the 1% concentration in my device about a week and a half ago and did not notice any benefit so I stopped after only trying them for 3 days. I have been struggling since with more burning and stinging than I had before and more of a sense of dryness, which could be weather related. Has anyone had any negative effects from lacosamide drops?

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                • #9
                  A friend uses Lacosamide drops applied directly to the eyes without sclerals. He was instructed (I believe) by Perry that the effects will last 45 minutes without Sclerals. So he applies Lacosamide every one hour for Corneal neuropathy.

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                  • #10
                    Hi fellow DEZers... I was on another round of looking up info to see if there is any help with my severe photosensitivity brought on by a sudden onset of dry eye since almost a year ago... Long story short, I stumbled upon the idea of using lacosamide, and found this thread. My profile is very similar to Eagle39, except that I had lasik 10+ years ago.

                    I live in Canada near Toronto. Anyone has leads to how to obtain these drops in my area? Any more user experience on them for dealing with corneal neuropathy? Please share and thanks!

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                    • #11
                      Hi ltree. Sorry you are still suffering, but nice to see you posting again. Earlier this year, a couple people in this forum were looking for a compounding pharmacy that could make lacosimide eye drops, but looks like that ingredient is currently not available to even make the drops. You might want to try contacting Fitch to see if he ever made headway on this. He was getting them from Leiters and using the drops successfully, before they closed.

                      http://www.dryeyezone.com/talk/forum...ps-please-help

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