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  • jasonsmith
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    Originally posted by jenny2008 View Post
    i tried it years ago -i urged my doc to let me try. it didnt help my eyes at all.. i just developed chalzions on the eyeslids over time and quit after about 8 months..i had it rxd from Leiters pharmacy in san jose
    I did talk to one of the researchers involved with the testosterone eye drop. I mentioned the cream form. And he said he thinks they put too much testosterone into the testosterone cream. Though I don't know how much testosterone they put in the eye drops.

    It looks like at least two different research groups are looking into different testosterone treatment options. i.e. eye drops vs. cream. And some research groups are using DHEA instead. And I think some are looking into Estrogen as well.

    The guy that came up with the testosterone cream had it made at The Peoples Custom RX.

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  • jasonsmith
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    Originally posted by PotatoCakes View Post
    You might try a research / university hospital. I know one of my physicians has been involved with studies of the eye cream -- it's one of the reasons I had my hormone levels tested but to be eligible, you needed low testosterone levels.
    Actually my opthamologist is at a research / university hospital.

    Did your physician comment any on how well the eye cream was working with people with low T and dry eye?

    I did read of some people using Estrogen for dry eye.

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  • jenny2008
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    i tried it years ago -i urged my doc to let me try. it didnt help my eyes at all.. i just developed chalzions on the eyeslids over time and quit after about 8 months..i had it rxd from Leiters pharmacy in san jose

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  • PotatoCakes
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    You might try a research / university hospital. I know one of my physicians has been involved with studies of the eye cream -- it's one of the reasons I had my hormone levels tested but to be eligible, you needed low testosterone levels.

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  • jasonsmith
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    Originally posted by LaDiva View Post
    I've seen a few responses in other posts from people who have tried the eye cream and think it has had limited results. Would love to hear from everyone who has tried it and the results they have seen. I am interested, with or without a heavy beard! LOL I'll try just about anything.
    Have you read of any where it helped out alot?

    And what type of dry eye did the people have who said the eye cream had limited results?

    Since there are many different types of dry eye. I could see a treatment like testosterone working for some, but not for others. Kinda like with Restasis, or plugs. That is assuming the research is sound on testosterone and tear gland function.

    Though I also wonder if the length of time of having dry eyes affects at to what level of relief one could get from say the testosterone cream. i.e. damage already too far advanced.

    Though on the other hand, it could be one of those things, depending on the individual, that it could take time for it to work. i.e. time to repair damage or allow damage to heal. So, if that is the case, people could give up on it before it's had time to work.

    I'm just guessing at this point though.

    I found a place that say they've prescribed the eye cream. It's just soo far away.

    Though, I've been on testosterone gel treatment before in the past for low testosterone. Something like Androgel. And I was almost thinking of using that, but that stuff has alcohol in it and probably wouldn't even work correctly.

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  • jasonsmith
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    Originally posted by spmcc View Post
    I tried that - getting 3% testosterone cream for "low libido". However, my GP said low libido is more often caused by depression and he started writing a prescription for anti-depressants! So now I think it's better to be up-front about why you want to try 3% testosterone cream. I'm going to ask my cornea specialist... and take in some literature to show him.
    From what I've read, the testosterone cream for dry eye is a special formula. The Dr. who came up with it got a patent for it I believe. So there must be something different between it and the low libido testosterone cream for women.

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  • heyjude0701
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    Originally posted by spmcc View Post
    I tried that - getting 3% testosterone cream for "low libido". However, my GP said low libido is more often caused by depression and he started writing a prescription for anti-depressants! So now I think it's better to be up-front about why you want to try 3% testosterone cream. I'm going to ask my cornea specialist... and take in some literature to show him.

    Agreed spmcc. For several reasons, one of which is that it is a good idea to try to educate the physician

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  • spmcc
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    Originally posted by heyjude0701 View Post
    I've seen earlier posts on DEZ about telling your GP that you have low libido and getting a 3% testosterone cream prescribed, then using it on your eyelids. I wish there were a way for the doc to prescribe it knowing it is for dry eyes. do you know of any docs who will prescribe it off label for dry eyes?. Judy
    I tried that - getting 3% testosterone cream for "low libido". However, my GP said low libido is more often caused by depression and he started writing a prescription for anti-depressants! So now I think it's better to be up-front about why you want to try 3% testosterone cream. I'm going to ask my cornea specialist... and take in some literature to show him.

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  • jasonsmith
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    Originally posted by LaDiva View Post
    I've seen a few responses in other posts from people who have tried the eye cream and think it has had limited results. Would love to hear from everyone who has tried it and the results they have seen. I am interested, with or without a heavy beard! LOL I'll try just about anything.
    There were at least two seperate doctors studying it. One was doing drops, the other the cream. And it looks like they've been studying it for over a decade. So, I figure they found something to keep it going for so long. But it does make sense as they say testosterone makes your skin oily and gives you acne.

    I've talked to the researchers and they've mentioned of people saying it was a miracle. They didn't say how many were saying this, but it's enough for me to want to try it since I've used up the other treatment options.

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  • LaDiva
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    I've seen a few responses in other posts from people who have tried the eye cream and think it has had limited results. Would love to hear from everyone who has tried it and the results they have seen. I am interested, with or without a heavy beard! LOL I'll try just about anything.

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  • jasonsmith
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    Well my Opthamalogist won't prescribe the T eye cream. They told me to go see my family doctor. Haha. I told them it's something prescribed by an eye doctor.

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  • jasonsmith
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    Originally posted by PotatoCakes View Post
    I think creams and patches are used more commonly than shots or pills these days, particularly with women, so while the risks would likely be higher with shots or pills, they are still an issue with the other.

    I think age probably has something to do with it too. A 30 or 40 year old needs to weigh the same risk level differently than an 70 or 80 year old since the potential for damage is longer term, assuming one would use testosterone supplement for the rest of their life, etc.
    From the articles I've read, the testosterone eye cream is supposed to stay localized to the eye lids, vs. going around in the bloodstream. But what one could do I guess, is get your testosterone level checked a few times to know where you are at. Then after treatment, have it checked again to see if the level has gone up.

    Though you testosterone level changes throughout the day, so you'd have to get multiple tests done to try and figure up an average of your level.

    One thing that I think would be more of a risk at this point would be the testosterone eye drops. As I don't think they know the long term effects this could have putting those drops in your eye.

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  • PotatoCakes
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    I think creams and patches are used more commonly than shots or pills these days, particularly with women, so while the risks would likely be higher with shots or pills, they are still an issue with the other.

    I think age probably has something to do with it too. A 30 or 40 year old needs to weigh the same risk level differently than an 70 or 80 year old since the potential for damage is longer term, assuming one would use testosterone supplement for the rest of their life, etc.
    Last edited by PotatoCakes; 28-Jun-2012, 16:55.

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  • jasonsmith
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    Well, I'm male with secondary hypogonadism. So, I'm supposed to be on testosterone replacement therapy anyways. Which I plan to get back on to try again.

    Potato,

    Are you talking about side effects from the testosterone cream, or just from taking testosterone in general?

    The side effects from the cream should be minimal from what I understand because the testosterone is being applied topically to the eye lid that gets absorbed by the glands from what the researchers say vs. you getting testosterone shots or taking testosterone pills.

    From all the articles I've read on testosterone cream, I haven't read anything on there being a side effect problem. But sure take caution as anything is possible, and would be more of a worry for a female than a male.

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  • heyjude0701
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    Thanks PotatoCakes. I guess I should have my testosterone level tested.

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