I believe MGD is an Anemia Disease

[rhad]

My theory and what I tend to believe is the Cause of MGD, is Nutrient Deficiencies...Many people tend to think that diets low in sugar, or trying to eat "healthy" will help their eyes...the truth is, I as well as many others on this board have found that Cutting sugar doesn't fix this disease, eating a healthy diet is not enough, and taking fish oil is no miracle by any means, it might improve symptoms in some individuals to a small degree, but it does not restore the eyes back to normal function. it doesn't improve the eyes to a significant extent.

My theory is that This disease is caused by either a single or multiple nutrient Deficiencies.

A normal "healthy" person's digestive tract absorbs all "essential nutrients". I think many people on this board are looking too far for a cure for this disease, their looking alot further than they need to.

these specialized supplements such as Fish oil, I don't think are necessary...

Think about it people, The Basic "Essential Nutrients" the body needs for proper function are what we need to be looking at... When I refer to "Essential Nutrients" I am referring for the most part, to "Essential Mineral". Most Specifically "TRACE MINERALS".

we need to go back to the basics. the basic "Essential Trace Minerals" I think we should focus on these.

This disease, must be an anemia...The body has lost it's ability to absorb these "essential Nutrients" found in foods...causing anemia, or in other words, metabolic/chemistry activity in the body to be unable to function properly..why? because it doesn't have the "Catalysts" AKA..Minerals..they are needed for the body to enable Chemical Reactions to occur properly.

They are unable to enter the body, like a normal healthy individual...

this is my theory..

The Following Nutrients I've been experimenting with and Researched them in the Medical Journals:

Essential Trace Minerals:

Zinc (as gluconate)
Copper (as gluconate) (if you get fatigued easily, this one is key*)
Iron (as gluconate)

These Vitamins as well:

Vitamin A (from Cod liver oil, or Fish liver oil) (45% of people can't convert Beta Carotene from foods to Vitamin A, this is fact USDA study)
B12 (sublingual form)
Folic Acid (Folate Deficiency is very common, it's hard to absorb even in healthy individuals)

I have also researched Lithium, a trace mineral, I have not yet tried however( many Psychiatrists say that It is for the Endocrine Organs and Particularly the Brain, it's supposed to correct depression better than even drugs..)


I used to have fatigue, and Gastro intestinal symptoms, they have all subsided taking the above supplements...My eyes 90% better...I do not use eye drops.

I still think their are some trace minerals I am missing, as I am not 100% better...The Copper ended my fatigue/depression etc... within 1 or 2 days of starting it...

If any of you are willing to contribute to my findings, we really need to find the Connection between Chronic Inflammation(Rosacea) and Trace minerals.. I have yet to try Lithium, Boron, their are even more, Vanadium, etc..

This is what I've noticed has helped me the most... But I still feel we are missing a key nutrient..the changes in my Energy and Depression is eliminated...It's simply amazing what minerals can do..

Rhad

[Guest]

Lithium requires a prescription, and is usually prescribed only for psychiatric conditions... (In Canada and the U.S.). I haven't heard of any lithium supplements available here for OTC use... probably due to potential toxicities

Regarding the supplements that you are taking, can you expand upon why you chose these specific vitamins and minerals? Also, I'd be curious to know what amounts of these minerals you are taking?

Thanks for sharing this info!

[littlemermaid]

Vitamin/mineral deficiency/malabsorption

Instinctively I'm with you, rhad, and still looking for testing (last UK quote I got for allergy, food intolerance, deficiency testing was £3,000 ). Long-term rosacea sufferer PMed me to get 25(OH)D test - he had found malabsorption of vitamin D3 and big improvement on supplement.

We still have definite improvement on Omega 3 (minimise other fats).

[Guest]

My theory and what I tend to believe is the Cause of MGD, is Nutrient Deficiencies...Many people tend to think that diets low in sugar, or trying to eat "healthy" will help their eyes...the truth is, I as well as many others on this board have found that Cutting sugar doesn't fix this disease, eating a healthy diet is not enough, and taking fish oil is no miracle by any means,

I think there are many potential causes of MGD and dry eye.

I just wouldn't want anyone to rule out diet as a potential cause of their symptoms... it's easy to test the theory on an individual basis, there are unlikely to be any adverse effects from trying it, and if it helps, then that's fantastic!

Just for the record, I'm not saying that nutrient deficiencies aren't worth considering as causes of dry eye... I definitely think it's worth looking into... all I'm saying is that it isn't necessarily the root of the dry eye/MGD problem for everyone.

[rhad]

The funny thing about most people is they focus on one stupid detail, that is sad...Who cares about diabetes' role in this disease, when you look at the big picture, it is insignificant...Diabetes is also caused by deficiency of nutrients... all I'm sharing is what has helped me, and from the research I've done, reading for myself the medical journals. These are the most beneficial nutrients that I have found so far, and they've helped me more than anything else i've found..life's good now..

Besides, Zinc, Folic Acid, Vitamin A, and Iron all affect digestion of carbohydrates. they all affect the Digestive enzymes in the intestine called Brush Border Enzymes, these complete carbohydrate digestion...very important. They fix digestive problems. simple..

IBS, Food sensitivities, Digestive problems, these have fixed my food sensitivities, and improved my eyes by 90%...I'd say that's significant..


rhad

I think there are many potential causes of MGD and dry eye.

I just wouldn't want anyone to rule out diet as a potential cause of their symptoms... it's easy to test the theory on an individual basis, there are unlikely to be any adverse effects from trying it, and if it helps, then that's fantastic!

Just for the record, I'm not saying that nutrient deficiencies aren't worth considering as causes of dry eye... I definitely think it's worth looking into... all I'm saying is that it isn't necessarily the root of the dry eye/MGD problem for everyone.

[Guest]

The funny thing about most people is they focus on one stupid detail, that is sad...

No need to get nasty Rhad...

Who cares about diabetes' role in this disease, when you look at the big picture, it is insignificant...

I presume you are referring to the thread where I posted about the link between diabetes and dry eye?

http://www.dryeyezone.com/talk/showthread.php?t=11329

Who cares? Maybe a person who has or might have diabetes-induced dry-eye might be interested? /shrug

[westsnoop]

Have you experimented at all with digestive enzymes?

They might be the little booster needed.

[littlemermaid]

Different causes of 'dry eye'

Steady on chaps Different aetiologies and causes, as we know. http://www.dryeyezone.com/encyclopedia/diagnosis.html rhad - have you got any research links? SAAG - big thanks for diabetes information. westsnoop - digestion definitely better on the bio-yoghurts, no sugars.

[Rory]

I realise that scientists/Drs are not the brightest people... but excuse me if I remain skeptical about someone who cannot differentiate 'there' and 'their'.

Also...not much point stating the minerals and vitamins which have helped you...without stating the dosages.

[Plat]

Hi Rhad, can you please also share the nutrient that made your eyes water more as this is where your research all started. Thanks

[dave25]

The funny thing about most people is they focus on one stupid detail, that is sad...Who cares about diabetes' role in this disease, when you look at the big picture, it is insignificant...Diabetes is also caused by deficiency of nutrients... all I'm sharing is what has helped me, and from the research I've done, reading for myself the medical journals. These are the most beneficial nutrients that I have found so far, and they've helped me more than anything else i've found..life's good now..

Besides, Zinc, Folic Acid, Vitamin A, and Iron all affect digestion of carbohydrates. they all affect the Digestive enzymes in the intestine called Brush Border Enzymes, these complete carbohydrate digestion...very important. They fix digestive problems. simple..

IBS, Food sensitivities, Digestive problems, these have fixed my food sensitivities, and improved my eyes by 90%...I'd say that's significant..


rhad

I believe diabetes is caused by the bodies inability to produce insulin and regulate a normal blood glucose level. Unless I am missing something.

[Plat]

I think what Rhad is saying is that a nutritional defficiency is the cause that does not enable the body to produce insulin. Not being able to produce insulin may be diabetes, but what is the cause that made the body stop producing insulin?

[westsnoop]

[QUOTE= westsnoop - digestion definitely better on the bio-yoghurts, no sugars.[/QUOTE]


No need to argue that point, but enzymes and pro biotics are not the same thing.

There ought to be a place for both in an experimental regimen.

[sanna]

My theory and what I tend to believe is the Cause of MGD, is Nutrient Deficiencies...
My theory is that This disease is caused by either a single or multiple nutrient Deficiencies.

A normal "healthy" person's digestive tract absorbs all "essential nutrients". I think many people on this board are looking too far for a cure for this disease, their looking alot further than they need to.


Rhad

I think this could be true in some people absolutley. Preganancy can also cause dry eyes and when the baby is born the dry eyes goes away (not in all women). I mean that the body probably needed nore vitamines during the pregnancy or something cause it is hard for your body to carry a baby around for 9 mounths....

[dave25]

I think what Rhad is saying is that a nutritional defficiency is the cause that does not enable the body to produce insulin. Not being able to produce insulin may be diabetes, but what is the cause that made the body stop producing insulin?

I see. I have just never heard of diabetes being caused by a lack of nutrients. One thing is for certain, these diseases are complicated. If they were easy to cure somebody would have figured something out by now.