BioTears vs. Thera Tears Nutrition

[dnew85]

Which is better BioTears or Thera Tears Nutrition to help dry eye???

Thanks,

dnew

[Michael Lange OD]

try the new Fortifey Dry Eye Thearpy

I actually like Bio tears better than thera tears , however you may want to try the newest Dry eye formula on the market, Fortifeye Dry Eye Therapy. We started using this formula about two years ago for a pre medication for Lasik surgery patients. It dropped our dry eye rate significantly with lasik patients and then we started using it on all dry eye patients. We are one of the largest eye care centers in Florida, the dry eye capital!! I have thousands of patients currently taking Fortifeye Dry Eye Therapy two times a day with great results. Good Luck.

Michael P. Lange OD
Lange Eye Care and Associates
Lange Eye Institute

[Rebecca Petris]

I try not to be too draconian but certain posting rules are strictly enforced in order to discourage abuse of this website for promotional uses. Just as an FYI and not intended as a reflection on anyone's intentions, according to this website Dr. Lange is chairman of the board of Fortifeye vitamins.

[NYer]

I got that impression. I was extremely turned off by those two overly zealous posts out of the blue by Dr. Lange yesterday (and he never responded to Rory's very logical question regarding why his product would be any better than Barleans oil) and, frankly, I don't believe for a minute that his product has helped "thousands of dry eye patients"...not one of those thousands has mentioned anything on this web site, where we actually have thousands of dry eye patients. I find it disgraceful for a doctor to behave like that.

[dianat]

Any doc who mentions pre-medication for LASIK patients gets bad marks on this site.

[mflores22]

They have worked well for me. I just got my BioTears on Monday. Today is Thursday and I've been able to wear my contacts for the first time in about 4 or 5 months. I went from having one hour of contact wear daily (before my vision would start blurring in my right eye), to 12 hours in the span of only two days taking the pills. I had previously been taking TheraTears nutrition for about 4 or 5 months to no avail. The BioTears have been a godsend for me, so I'd definately say they're worth a shot!

I would also strongly recommend seeing a dry eye specialist though. Even though I hopefully have found a solution, they may not work for you, and I've wasted hundreds of dollars in artificial tears, goggles, new solutions, different brands of contacts, nothing helped. So if you have the means, get checked out by someone who's qualified. That's my two cents.

[Rory]

They have worked well for me. I just got my BioTears on Monday. Today is Thursday and I've been able to wear my contacts for the first time in about 4 or 5 months. I went from having one hour of contact wear daily (before my vision would start blurring in my right eye), to 12 hours in the span of only two days taking the pills. I had previously been taking TheraTears nutrition for about 4 or 5 months to no avail. The BioTears have been a godsend for me, so I'd definately say they're worth a shot!

I would also strongly recommend seeing a dry eye specialist though. Even though I hopefully have found a solution, they may not work for you, and I've wasted hundreds of dollars in artificial tears, goggles, new solutions, different brands of contacts, nothing helped. So if you have the means, get checked out by someone who's qualified. That's my two cents.

With all due respect, I dont believe that a fish oil/multivitamin supplement will cure your dry eyes in 48 hours.

[Rebecca Petris]

I think we have another member who is convinced that they saw a difference within hours of the first dose of Biotears. While I wouldn't rule out any possibilities at all, I think that to avoid disappointment with 'relapses' and also to avoid contributing to others' disappointments, it's best to give any product a full trial period before reporting back on benefits. With nutritional supplements, I don't really know what that period is, but I tend to think 1-3 months.

[Rory]

I think we have another member who is convinced that they saw a difference within hours of the first dose of Biotears. While I wouldn't rule out any possibilities at all, I think that to avoid disappointment with 'relapses' and also to avoid contributing to others' disappointments, it's best to give any product a full trial period before reporting back on benefits. With nutritional supplements, I don't really know what that period is, but I tend to think 1-3 months.

There is certainly a psychological aspect to new treatments when you are a longterm dry eye sufferer. The sufferer tends to somehow imagine improved symptoms or indeed maybe the hope and positivity does really play a part...if only for a short time... in much the same way that adrenalin can dull pain?

[NYer]

In addition, Dr. Lange still has not answered Rory's question of a few days ago, which was, in essence, Why would BioTears work any better than something like Barleans, which has far more of the key ingredients in it?

So I still am concerned about the pushing of this product by someone who has a profit-making role in it's sale. The doctor was taken aback at some of the attitude that he received after doing that, however he still hasn't responded to any of our points.

We were not attacking him for being new here, as he made it sound. We had a number of points to be addressed - and they still haven't been addressed.

I am more than happy to see an eyecare professional, especially a doctor, join us in conversation on this site - it could potentially be a tremendous help to all of us. But not if the doctor is simply here to push his product and make a profit.

If Dr. Lange can give a plausible backup to his statements and a plausible response to questions that were put to him, then I welcome him wholeheartedly to our repartee.

Until then, he may be a nice guy but I have no basis for listening to anything he has to say.

[Rebecca Petris]

NYer, Dr. Lange has not replied because (a) he doesn't know his way around the forums and (b) I asked him not to. These community forums are for patients only, as a matter of policy. I'm currently exploring whether/how/where to set up a place where doctors who wish to contribute can do so.

Meantime... I know no one would deliberately be rude to others, but for the benefit of those who are newer than others (heck, even for those who are older than others), I would like to re-emphasize that among the standards I try to uphold for this forum, my VERY highest priority is that members show courtesy and consideration to other participants at all times.

[mflores22]

First, Dr. Lange was not pushing BioTears, he was pushing his own formulation of Omega 3s, vitamins, etc. Second, BioTears, TheraTears, and Barleans all have short and long chain omega 3 fatty acids in a their formulations, but BioTears includes a wider range of vitamins as well as other additives (see their website, I don't have the time nor the true knowledge base to explain it well) that aim to build up all three levels of your tear film, as well as decrease inflammation. I strongly recommend that anyone considering purchasing any nutritional supplement for dry eyes, check out both BioTears and TheraTears websites. They both expain in extensive detail how Omega 3s increase the quality of tears and reduce inflammation. I can assure you, I'm a consumer, not an owner, worker, or anything that would connect me to BioTears.

I do agree with the point that I should have waited a longer period of time before I made my post. I do have somewhat of a scientific background, and I understand the need to evaluate results over a reasonable amount of time. But I did take care to convey that I'm still somewhat skeptical that I have found my 'cure', I stated that what works for me might not work for you, and I stressed the need to find a good dry eye specialist. I thought I made it clear that my results were a little premature, but extremely positive nonetheless.

The reason I think that the it's the BioTears, and not a placebo effect that has brought on my rapid turnaround, is that I've literally experimented with dozens of variables over the past six months. Increasing my TheraTears dosage to 3x the normal amount, eating wild salmon four times a week, switching contacts four times, changing solutions, performing warm compresses, using OcuSoft, etc, etc, etc. None of these has brought on one bit of change. Also, I started taking TheraTears over two years ago when I was living in San Francisco, and I had much the same experience. Within three or four days, the pain in my right eye had subsided about 80 percent. After two weeks, almost no noticable pain. After one month, no pain, discomfort, or any symptoms at all. This lasted for one full year until I moved to San Diego, a desert climate.

So with all due respect, in my experience, BioTears are better than TheraTears.

I'll update my status in one month's time. Hopefully I'll continue with a positive response to BioTears and my experience will help others. That's what we're here for. Right?

[nanship]

biotears

I'm wondering if these help sjogren's patients ?? I have been using theratears for several months now , and don't really see any improvement .. Also , I have read that these should not be taken if you are using a blood thinner such as coumadin ? I'd be willing to try anything to get a semblence of my life back .. thanks nancy

[Norm]

What about Hydro-eye vitamins...

I was placed on that one recently. I'm taking 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening. How does that one stack up??

[nitrodrops]

I have been using Theratears for 4mths, saw a slight improvement, able to extend extra 2hrs without using eye-drops.

Thinking whether should i switch to Biotears to give it a try.

The differences between the BioTears and Theratears, is Biotears contains Omega6

Q. What is the difference between BioTears Oral GelCaps and TheraTears Nutritionals?

Night and Day. TheraTears Nutritionals are designed around the metabolic conversion of plant and fish based Omega 3 fatty acids, which, primarily, convert downstream to the series three prostaglandin (PGE3). Simply said; the Omega 6 GLA series one prostaglandins (PGE1) produced by BioTears Oral GelCaps are far more tear and mucous gland specific than the series three prostaglandins in TheraTears Nutritionals. Thera Tears Nutritionals does not include Omega 6 fatty acid, gamma-linolenic-acid (GLA), which is required to produce tear specific PGE1. BioTears includes the best quality available Omega 6 and Omega 3 fatty acids to address the inflammatory process frequently associated with all three layers of the tear film.