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    CAVEAT:
    MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FLIES IN THE FACE OF CONVENTIONAL ADVICES. SO IF YOU'RE THE TYPE TO BELIEVE MORE IN CONVENTIONAL LORE, THIS POSTING WON'T BE YOUR CUP OF COFFEE...

    For the record, I decided to copy/paste my response to a different posting, in case others may discover that their own experiences mimick mine. After all, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It's more or less intended for those with auto-immune conditions, such as fibromyalgia, light sensitivities, other sensitivities & so forth.

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    Originally posted by Musetta View Post
    Hi there, thanks for your responses.
    Ema- I suppose I've decided that I'm not going to avoid coffee and chocolate for ever, but when I eat them 1) they have to be really really good coffee and chocolate 2) I've had to learn when to stop!
    Are you sure it was the coffee?
    Maybe it was just the chocolate?
    Also, btw, if i'd totally avoid sweet stuff, I'd get bad constipation.

    I actually got dry eyes & eyelids (and much more horrors) from computer fluresence - I don't have tendency to genetic red skin/scaling skin.

    Rather, my tendency was to painful fibromyalgia, sallow/oil skin in face, including adult acne (which is my form of what others might manifest as inflammed face. With me, it's pimples & cysts in odd spots).
    I'd get the pimples AND headaches from: Chocolate (though chocolate products are not that bad, are declicious, and the BEST for facilitating my digestion), Citrus, salty-chips, over-salted food, SodiumCitrate, SodiumNitrite, hot spices, raw-non-sauteed-onions-hidden-in-foods etc. Basically, blood thinner type of foods have been a major culprit. Citrus and raw-onions would also cause me terrible sore throat & runny nose for weeks on end.
    ConverselY, blood thickeners such as honey, would counteract the "evils" caused by blood-thinners, such as lemon or NON-SAUTEED onions. (I guess that's what Xlear is about, to "thicken" the nasal drips which are caused by people eating blood-thinning foods, or to thicken mucuous caused by viruses which may be stirred out of their cubbyholes by citrus or raw-onion-hidden-in-foods (which have the properties of opening pores). A general rule of thumb to follow is: Add sweetness to too-sour food, then add some salt, if it gets too sweet. Instead of just black & white, acknowledge the shades of grey...
    ...back to topic:
    I also lately have borderline electrosensitivity & always had fluorescent/photosensitivity but worsened with advent of computers.

    ...OK, so much for background
    Now to get to the point:

    For most of my close to 50 years, I'd been avoiding coffee like a zombie because i grew up with my mother saying it ruined her teeth (based on medical propaganda). Then later, doctors fanatically warning in droning monotonous Qs "do you drink? smoke? coffee?"

    ...then, of course, i'd hear endless static about the "jitters" people get, and the "withdrawal" symptoms.

    Finally, I started thinking logically.
    I said to myself, THROW MEDICAL ASSUMPTIONS OUT THE WINDOW.
    PUT 2 + 2 TOGETHER.

    (1) My computer symptoms very much mimic alcohol hangover
    (2) Alcoholics are helped by drinking coffee + aspirin

    Bingo - Caffeinated coffee has proved a lifesaver to me.
    Coffee tightens my lids when drinking it prior to computer use.
    That way the "bad" stuff of computer causes me less harm.
    And my eyelids become MUCH LESS inflamed.
    My eyes themselves retain moisture better!! NOT so dehydrated as without coffee!
    Upon coffee, the whites of my eyes are whiter, NOT so red!

    Far from "jittering" me, it helps me sleep.
    During the DECADES i'd avoided coffee, I had such terrible headaches, I couldn't sleep!
    Now, due to coffee I CAN SLEEP!!!!

    It protects me from headaches caused by radio waves & fluresence.
    It protects me from headaches caused by windy weather (btw, wind affects radio reception too!

    Conversely, ingesting liquid silica CAUSED me radio sensitivity! And similar bad stuff happened to my sickly friend upon using that same highly-rated silica


    If there hadn't been that MISGUIDED MEDICAL PROPAGANDA years ago (which caused me to avoid coffee all those years), I GUARANTEE you that I wouldn't be so prematurely aged by now. I'm less than 50, yet with symptoms & appearance of my Dad when he was, say, 75.

    I noted that coffee had been given a bad rap based on its constricting heart vessels, dehydration, & affecting bones.. but without telling the WHOLE PICTURE.
    It's indicated vs. Alzheimer prevention, Parkinsons & diabetes.
    You can take calcium chews a few hours after coffee, for bones.
    You can take heart-healthy foods in conjunction with coffee.
    You can rehydrate via taking, say, peaches & humectant foods.

    The above is the tip of iceberg.
    There's LOTS more i've discovered the doctors to be morons about.
    But, as i say: The more the lessons, the less the morons!
    (except they never learn their lesson - because they're not trained to be intuitive, unlike the "dumb" elephants who were intuitive enough to run from the tsunami. For example, a few of them scoffed at me upon my mentioning the symptoms caused me by computers. What a nerve. Instead of listening to me, so they can warn others, they're jerks, guilty of criminal negligence, trained by a one-size-fits-all system to use linear, not circular logic.

    PLEASE NOTE:
    This doesn't mean I'm cured! I'm still mulling over stem-cell lotions for eyelids. Yada Yada.
    I'm still photosensitive, and computer sensitive.
    But without coffee? I'd be a MUCH worse wreck. How i wish i'd drunk coffee ALL my life.
    Last edited by Minni; 12-May-2010, 19:13.
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    Minni,

    How is the coffee regime going?? I'm really curious on this one. It's true, everywhere you look coffee is targeted as a cause of so many problems and it is said to be inflammatory. I only did a quick search but i did find a couple of sources saying that it is anti-inflamatory and talking about it's beneficial qualities. Well, now i'm confused, but i wanted to mention that i'm in the same boat. Big problems with computers and lights that have now resulted in me leaving my job, so i'm always on the lookout for anything that might help!

    By the way, is it just the caffine or is it something else in the coffee. Would popping a caffeine pill have the same effect?

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    • #3
      Honey thickens blood?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by david2404 View Post
        Minni,

        How is the coffee regime going?? I'm really curious on this one. It's true, everywhere you look coffee is targeted as a cause of so many problems and it is said to be inflammatory. I only did a quick search but i did find a couple of sources saying that it is anti-inflamatory and talking about it's beneficial qualities. Well, now i'm confused, but i wanted to mention that i'm in the same boat. Big problems with computers and lights that have now resulted in me leaving my job, so i'm always on the lookout for anything that might help!

        By the way, is it just the caffine or is it something else in the coffee. Would popping a caffeine pill have the same effect?
        I haven't tried caffeine pills, but it's probably mainly the caffeine which does the trick, i imagine.

        All i know is that when I take coffee prior to knowing I'll be undergoing stress, such as dealing with geriatric parents, or stressful shopping, or the HUGE stress from fluresent EMFs of computer, I take coffee/with/humectant-sweetener to fortify myself. It definitely mitigates things,because normally I'd get a headache that's EXCRUCIATING, as well as red-eye inflammation that's EXCRUCIATING. And the coffee counteracts that to a degree.

        The flip side:

        While coffee is good for headaches, eye pain, diabetics, parkinson's & alzheimer's, the flip side is:

        It can affect the heart, so not indicated if your heart is in bad shape.

        Actually, my heart isn't the best either, but if it's a choice of those terrible headaches & eye pain, or higher blood pressure & heart pain...
        ...at least for now, I choose the latter.

        I also find that coffee has the same effect on me as horseradish AND cold-weather, as follows:
        all these factors constrict the right arch of my foot and also my right ankle, so that they're painful.

        It's usually like that.
        Everything has a side...
        ....and a flip-side.

        ..so what's the answer?

        Probably, to get the hang of knowing how/when to balance your system.
        Take the hot stuff when you're cold.
        Take cold stuff when youre hot.
        Take coffee with sweetener, when you know you'll be under stress.
        But counteract that with warm baths, with Berry-"C", with raisin bran, a while later.
        The list goes on, but I guess you got the picture.

        P.S. even when you take warm baths, be sure to apply an ice pak to the scalp area, and also intermittently allow cool water on your feet. Otherwise you may continue to have headaches, due to the head becoming overheated.
        Above all:
        PLAY IT BY EAR. LISTEN TO THE RESPONSE OF YOUR BODY.
        NOBODY KNOWS YOUR BODY BETTER THAN YOU!!!
        The above are meant as general tips (i.e. a vague guide) all the time realizing that your body's response is your best guide of all.
        Last edited by Minni; 28-Jun-2010, 01:21.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by magoo View Post
          Honey thickens blood?
          That's how it feels with my body.
          Would you call it a blood thinner?

          And do you propose to throw out the baby with the bathwater (the way the judicial system has cops throw out evidence based on a trivial technicality? A quite civilized form of tarring & feathering.
          Last edited by Minni; 28-Jun-2010, 02:04.
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          • #6
            I drink gano coffee. It is coffee in individualized packets with the reishi mushroom that is supposed to be very anti-inflammatory. Maybe it really has been helping me. I have drank it for years. I am not endorsing it, but I really do like it. Maybe, it gives an additional benefit...

            Just a thought,
            Melissa
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            • #7
              Over the years, I've already tried mushroom supplements, as well as the strongly touted Immunocal, & Culturelle. And, of course, acidopholus (various brands, including Solgar.)

              None have had any effect on me. Nor have zillions of other supplements, therapies/ists I've tried, the latest one being Klamath Blue Green Algae.

              On the other hand, when I take good quality yogurt, I definitely feel more refreshed than when I don't take yogurt for awhile.
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              • #8
                THIS IS SO EMBARRASSING BUT I MUST ADD THIS WARNING:

                I JUST DEVELOPED BAD HEARTBURN / ESOPHAGITIS FROM THE COFFEE.

                SO ...

                DOES IT COME DOWN TO A CHOICE BETWEEN:

                MIGRAINES - DUE TO COMPUTER USE (AND COFFEE AVOIDANCE)?
                ESOPHAGITIS - ALBEIT MIGRAINE RELIEF - FROM COFFEE?


                I've been doing research and came across data about dark roasted coffee containing more NMP which seems to block production of stomach acid.
                For example, this article:
                http://www.germerica.net/coffee-Dark-Roasted

                But the real question is, whether the dark roasts, or the acid-free coffee's would also have the ability to protect against migraines (or even diabetes and alzheimers, for that matter).

                So..
                I've recently had this brainstorm, to try creating for myself a micro-environment (sorta like tranquileyes) to protect against computer fluresence. The next step is, trying to find non-toxic sponges to insert inside netting, which would be attached to inner walls of a small brown carton. Then I'd cut out a space for an Irlen overlay to act as built-in "sunglass", then view the computer thru this "anti-EMF helmet" which would "ride" on my shoulders.
                What a pipedream - but I'm afraid that I just won't have the time/resources to pull it off.

                Another idea, is to use a larger, 17" screen (either on laptop or free standing), and place it further back so that it's approx. 3 to 4 feet from where I'm sitting.
                With no more than 1680 x 1050 resolution (maybe 1440 x 900 would be even better).
                I just can't decide.
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