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    I have suffered for years with dry eye. I've used every drop available, including blood serum drops -- no help. I've had my meibomian glands probed (a little help, didn't last), and been seen by more doctors than I can count, including Dr Tseng in Miami. Recently I saw Dr Tseng for the 3rd time and he looked for mites in my eye lashes, as he has done before. I have had mites previously, and I treated them with the product he had available at that time. But, this time when he checked for mites he found the brevis mite, which he had not found before. The brevis mite lives in the meibomian glands, vs. the lash follicles. It is also difficult to find, and treat, because they don't move around like the typical demodex mite does. According to Dr Tseng the brevis mite can raise havoc with the meibomian glands. I have started a new regimen, partly at Dr Tseng's suggestion, and partly from my own knowledge. Each evening I take a shower and wash my eye lids with OCuSOFT foaming eyelid cleanser. Just before bed I use a Cliradex wipe, per Dr Tseng. Then, and this is my add to the process, I rub about 1/8 inch of Lotemax PF ointment across the eye lids. When I wake in the morning I immediately use a warm compress for about 5-8 minutes. With this regimen I have now reached the point where I don't need to use warm compresses throughout the day. I can watch TV, and even read books, which I could not do before. BTW, sometimes rather than rubbing the Lotemax ointment across the lids I put 1/8 inch into each eye. I do that when my eyes seem to be more irritated than usual.

    Dr Tseng told me to use the wipes twice per day, and I did that for a week or so. But, I found that my eyes were getting irritated so I went to once per day. I believe the Lotemax PF ointment is controlling the inflamation, while the Cliradex is addressing the mite problem. Dr Tseng said it could take 4 months to get rid of the brevis mites. I will probably start using the Cliradex twice per day now that my eyes are doing much better.

    One other thing I do, periodically, is see Dr Paul Gilwit in Ft Lauderdale. He has a very successful approach at expressing the meibomian glands. For about one week after I see him my eyes seem perfect, no irritation. It does not last, for me, longer than about one week. But, Dr Gilwit says that if I have the glands expressed every 3-4 months, the time it will last will be much longer. I have not done it at that frequency yet because my current regimen has helped so much. But, I do plan to see him again in a couple of months.

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    Hi pbeinetti,
    thank you for your message on the MGD Treatment.
    May I ask you for some more details, how dr Paul Gilwit does express the MGs.
    Back in dec 2007, dr Gilwit stated here on this website, that he has patented a new MG expression device.
    But I did not find any patent of him so far.

    So me and other patients should be grateful for a more detailed description, how dr Gilwit does treat MGD.
    I have not been able, posting the old message from dr Gilwit here.
    Maybe someone will be good enough to do so.

    Peter

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    • #3
      What have your symptoms been?

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      • #4
        Dr Gilwit does not disclose how he does the expression -- except to say that he uses a small, hand held 'tool' that is able to cause the glands to secrete a significant amount of oil. After my last visit, which was about 45 days ago, I drove home about 3 hours and could not believe how well I was seeing, and how irritation free my eyes were.

        My symptoms have been gritty feeling eyes, feeling of swollen eye lids, blurry eyes, burning eyes, unable to keep my eyes open longer than 3-4 seconds, light sensitivity, glare, halos and starbursts at night, etc. My Schirmer score is very low, and TBUT is 1-3 seconds. Sometimes when I feel that the eyes are extremely dry I will take a tablet of pilocarpine, which stimulates saliva in the mouth, and also helps increase tears. However, since I have started my latest regimen I have not used any pilocarpine, and I feel like I can keep my eyes open as long as 10 seconds without feeling significant burning.

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        • #5
          Lotemax is a steroid. Is this safe to use on a permanent basis? My understanding was that longterm use of steroids caused cataracts and/or glaucoma?

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          • #6
            zuzu70 - you are correct. If I am remembering correctly, one of the moderators here (Kitty?) had that happen to her from long-term use of a steroid drop.

            pbeinetti - I am LOLing at myself because originally when I read about your new regimen I saw Lotrimin PF instead of Lotemax PF and kept thinking - wow, he's putting an OTC anti-fungal in his eyes?!? I'm glad I misread it.

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            • #7
              Intraocular pressure needs checking just after starting steroid eyedrops, and thereafter. Unicorn had sudden increase in IOP within a week on dexamethasone. FML has less incidence of raised IOP but difficult to find without preservative. http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/default.htm
              Paediatric ocular rosacea ~ primum non nocere

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              • #8
                Lotemax is a very safe steroid, much more than Pred or Dexa. That doesn't mean that IOP shouldn't be checked periodically, but it's not in the same league as the other steroids. I use a very small amount of the PF ointment, just enough to 'wet' the lids.

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                • #9
                  Are you placing the lotemax ointment on the inner part of the eyelids or the outer part of the lids (and top lid when your eye is shut)? i ask because my corneal specialist wants me to do the same thing but every other day. he said it would absorb very much into the eye so i assumed that meant for me to put the strip of ointment on top of hte top lid and below the lashes on teh lower lid?

                  Is that how you are putting the ointment on?thanks!
                  Originally posted by pbeinetti View Post
                  Lotemax is a very safe steroid, much more than Pred or Dexa. That doesn't mean that IOP shouldn't be checked periodically, but it's not in the same league as the other steroids. I use a very small amount of the PF ointment, just enough to 'wet' the lids.
                  ent

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                  • #10
                    For eyelid treatment check out BlephEx.

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                    • #11
                      I put the Lotemax PF on the outside of the lids -- usually. Sometimes, if my eyes are more irritated, I'll put a small amount on the inside of the lid.

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                      • #12
                        As long as you are getting checked out ..I wouldn't worry to much about it. I doubt a lot is getting absorbed into the eye. I use Alrex every second or third day.. Doc said it was fine as long as he was monitoring it.. I hope one day to only use it two times per week but I am not there yet!

                        Good luck! Keep us updated.

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                        • #13
                          i wanted to add i called my corneal specialist today and he told me to use the lotemax ointment every other night on my lid margins and to apply like one would apply eye liner on both the top and bottom lid but not the inside of my eye (unless in a horrible flare).. My specialist is really good and said that hardly any gets absorbed by putting it on the outside..He said it should help with the MGD>..keep us posted if it helps you- i will do the same!

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