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  • Any young people here with severe MGD?

    Hey,

    I'm wondering if other younger people here have dropout of 50% or higher on meibomian glands? I never wore contact lenses and wonder why my glands are that bad. Maybe you have an idea?

  • #2
    I am 28 years old but got this when I was 22. Not sure if I have "drop out" or not. No doctor has ever told me. How old are you? Do you have rosacea?

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    • #3
      I'm 26 and got mgd out of nowhere ( at least it felt like that), I might have had the condition lingering for some time without noticing. I used to wear a lot of eye makeup, and epecially on my waterline. I also used a lot of red eye drops after nights out before uni etc. I'm wondering if that could have anything to do with it.

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      • #4
        There's been a lot of younger people getting MGD because of excessive use of computers and other electronic devices. When using electronic devices, I've read one blinks 60% less than normal. Blinking is how the meibomian glands express the oil that mixes with the tears, to keep the tears from evaporating and keep the eye moist. If there is less blinking, the eyes get dry, and more oil is staying in the glands, getting thick and stagnant, blocking the glands and/or forming scar tissue, and eventually the glands will atrophy or will no longer function. Although I am not as young as you all, excessive computer use at work was likely one of the secondary reasons for my severe MGD.

        There's many articles on this, but here is a brief one:

        https://dryeyeandmgd.com/understanding-mgd/

        Blinking exercises (like below) at least every hour and taking regular breaks are recommended when using electronic devices. However, if one already has severely blocked glands, these things would likely be most effective after first unblocking the glands via probing, IPL, etc., which I know some of you are planning to have done.

        http://www.skyvisioncenters.com/blog...exercises-app/
        Last edited by Hokucat; 23-Jul-2017, 20:11.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ingrid2309 View Post
          I also used a lot of red eye drops after nights out before uni etc. I'm wondering if that could have anything to do with it.
          I hear most eye drops advertised to make your eyes less red are vasoconstrictors and often have preservatives in them which lead to ocular surface damage and dry eye.

          http://www.dryeyezone.com/encycloped...strictors.html

          Sufferer due to Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis.
          Avatar art by corsariomarcio

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          • #6
            Hi Angrid

            With respect to make-up

            If you still suffer MGD, best to avoid make up and be careful as they are bad for eyes - do you have thick oil?

            There are many studies show many OTC (or expensive french-made) beauty/skin care, sunblock products contain
            parabens, alcohols, preservatives, EDTA, etc. -- bad for eyes, I have made the list

            http://www.dryeyezone.com/talk/forum...-care-products

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            • #7
              I have said it before and I will say it again. 6 years ago when I started on this forum I rarely heard of computer related dry eye, it was mostly post lasik. I see more and more of it lately and sadly I predict an epidemic in the future as we become more and more dependent on electronic devices. I posted this on another thread but here it is again. Excessive computer usage CAN cause meibomian gland dysfunction. Between texting, e-readers, work and school computer usage, video games, TV, home computer usage...the list is endless if you add it up in a day for many people the hours would be staggering....think about it.

              Here is a great article on the importance of proper meibomian gland function and the possible causes of dry eye relative to the same, for all of you who suspect that excessive computer usage has lead to your current symptoms. This of course is not exclusive to excessive computer usage but the association is important.

              https://www.reviewofoptometry.com/ar...nd-dysfunction

              Digital devices. With the ubiquity of computers, tablets and smart phones, the latest addition to the pathophysiology behind meibomian gland dysfunction is what was once called “computer vision syndrome.” The main culprit: decreased blink rate. On average, a person blinks around 15 times per minute. Studies show that during computer use, the blink rate decreases by 60% to about 4.5 blinks per minute.15 As discussed earlier, the action of blinking releases the meibum from the meibomian gland, delivering it to the lid margin. With less frequent blinking, meibum build-up creates similar long-term issues with acinar and meibomian gland atrophy.15,

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              • #8
                Some stuff you can use for computers, mobile phones, tablets to improve blinking, reduce glare / contrast etc.

                Luminescence / Blue Light Filtering ----------------------------

                https://justgetflux.com/
                https://forum.justgetflux.com/topic/...ing-blue-light

                https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...urbandroid.lux

                For iOS enable Night Mode

                Reducing Glare on PC, Mac and Webpages ----------------------------

                https://www.turnoffthelights.com/

                https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/fir...r-easy-readin/

                https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/fir...le-night-mode/

                https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...ajfohhbpkkfiaa

                https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...hhkmoekeicedej

                Blink Reminders (for PC, Browser, Android, iOS) ----------------------------

                http://eyeleo.com/

                http://www.dryeyezone.com/reminders/

                https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/fir...link-reminder/

                https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/fir...evention-tool/

                https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...mnnijjhn?hl=en

                https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...kbmlpmeo?hl=en

                https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...bblinktraining

                https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/dona...941412795?mt=8
                Last edited by PhoenixEyes; 25-Jul-2017, 04:21.
                Sufferer due to Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis.
                Avatar art by corsariomarcio

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                • #9
                  Today I got the Lipiview tests done. Osmolarity 302/305 and very low gland atrophy. Oil is expressible with mild to moderate force.
                  So this doesn't sound too bad, still my eyes feel terrible most of the time. Speaking for too less tear production again.

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                  • #10
                    Sometimes my glands express oil, sometimes they don't and it really really hurts. Doctors also tell me mine is "mild" but trust me, I am pretty tough and it sure doesn't feel mild when it flares. More doctors need to have MGD lol so they can relate. Im waiting to hear from a doctor to get probing done. I have literally tried everything else from Lipiflow to scleral lenses, nothing has really worked. I still have constant flares.

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                    • #11
                      Interestingly enough Faith what you say is exactly true "More doctors need to have MGD lol so they can relate". Tonight my husband drove an open vehicle through a field with hay in it. About 20 min later he had an immediate histamine reaction in his eyes which did not clear with drops. I had to drive home and he sat with his eyes closed. When we got home about 1/2 hour later and got his contacts out he went to lay down and close his eyes. An hour later when he was up and about again he made a comment along the lines of "boy that sure took a lot out of me". I asked if he had a new found respect for what I go through and honestly I think he was convinced that what I feel a lot of the time could not possible have been as bad as his hour of hell....sigh.

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