Reducing osmalarity

[DryLondoner]

I've read a lot (mainly on this forum) about how you can get red veins because your eyes are dry. And the way to get rid of them is by reducing the osmalarity of the your tear film.

I know one of the moderators, indrep, I think, wrote that HA drops were the best ones to use to reduce osmalarity.

For some reason my eyes cannot tolerate any HA drops. I used blink for about two months and then my eyes started freaking out badly. The only one which is ok, is Systane Ultra. Although I can;t use it more than twice a day without grittiness.

My question: is there any other way to reduce osmalarity? Is this something which may happen naturally over time if you start producing more tears? I am 11 months post LASIK, so I'm hoping as my nerves heal I'll have a healthier tear film - I know this is optimistic. But optimism is all I have at the moment.


I hope this makes sense. I'm afraid I am struggling to get my head around the science of it all...

[dominorose]

Have you tried Vismed drops?

I use them, single vials. It really helps with the osmolarity and induced "acid tears"

[DryLondoner]

I haven't tried those - my eyes don't like sodium hyaluronate.

I've 3 different types (Blink intensive, hylo forte and clinitis) and they go red and feel gritty after about 10 minutes.

[LaDiva]

Try TheraTears preservative free vials if you can get them. Be ready to fight the battle of their unsealable vials. I truly hate the containers, but don't get me started on that again. I reseal them with Restasis caps and must remember not to throw the caps away. I really can't use any other drop and have tried just about everything.

[DryLondoner]

I tried Refresh contacts which have very similar ingredients to TheraTears from what I can see...as soon as they go in boom, redness starts.

[dominorose]

Have you tried to change your diet?

[LaDiva]

I cannot use Refresh, only TT. The amount of carboxyl methylcellulose sodium found in each is different. Give it a try if you can find them. http://www.mastereyeassociates.com/t...cant-eye-drops Also make sure they are preservative free.

[DryLondoner]

Thanks for letting me know LaDiva, I will give them a try!

Dominorose - yes, I am juicing every morning and find I am better when I avoid wheat. I have also stopped all dairy. I am moving in two weeks and hopefully will have more control over what I eat then, currently I live with my parents.

[tealeaf]

Dry Londoner, seems like systane ultra is the only drop that I can take too.
Can you share what juice are you taking in the morning?

[dominorose]

I think candida/yeast could be the culprit in many "derm-induced dry eyes". Ive started cutting wheat too but find it hard to stop coffee and diet coke, but thats my next step (starting tomorrow)

[DryLondoner]

I cut out coffee 3 months ago, went from one large coffee every morning to nothing. It was hard, but meant I saved over £10 a week which helped! Now I don't really crave it.

I juice, kale, carrots, beetroot, spinach, garlic, lemon and any other veg lying around. I also add in some turmeric, vitamin c and quercetin as I have a dust-mite allergy. I don't know if it actually helps that much - the detox I tried made me really ill. So I had to stop that. The juice does not taste great - but I don't want to add fruit as I have heard that the sugar is different from fruit when juiced, and it is better to eat fruit whole.

For me, I know I am sensitive to BAK and reacted badly to steroid drops. So I don't know how much all of this will help.

TeaLeaf - have you had a confocal microscopy?

[Faith1989]

What do you mean "derm-induced" dry eye?

[dominorose]

I think when you have dry eyes caused by rosacea or seb derm, yeast infection could often be the culprit. But thats just my unscientific opinion, based on what Ive read on the internet...

[dominorose]

Dryeyelondoner : you could also try Cationorm drops, dont think they contain HA and apparently they're hypotonic (i use them too)

[tealeaf]

I juice, kale, carrots, beetroot, spinach, garlic, lemon and any other veg lying around. I also add in some turmeric, vitamin c and quercetin as I have a dust-mite allergy. I don't know if it actually helps that much - the detox I tried made me really ill. So I had to stop that.

Dry Londoner - the juice doesn't sound too appetising to me. I wonder I can ever get started with them

TeaLeaf - have you had a confocal microscopy?

What does confocal microscopy test?