People with regular dry eyes diagnoses

[dryeye4ever]

Ok listen guys, im in no way an expert on the subject and all I have is mild dry eye due to over usage of a laptop with high brightness. My doctor told me its getting more and more common as people use gadgets such as tablets, smartphones that have high brightness but this is detrimental to our eyes.

Everything seems so complicated here, I am not saying its wrong but I mean when I look at the diets forum and section, we seem to be looking for the secret potion. There IS NOT gonna be a CURE for dry eyes EVER. Why? Ophtalmologists and the pharma industry would lose too much money just forget it.

However, like anything else in life, there is a solution. I DO NOT know the different diagnoses about dry eyes. If you have dry eyes due to accutane, computer use and if you have lack of tears and you dont have a complicated diagnosis such as blepharitis, MGD, ROcasea then there is a solution for you. Long story short, if you have evaporative dry eyes then an ophtalmologist would be a better bet for you or speak to a nutritionist as your body might have stopped producing tears. Ive no idea what MGD or blepharitis is im sorry.

All I know is that dry eyes is an inflammation and it can be cured with proper diet and if you have the same diagnosis as mine it can be cured but it takes time and dedication. I was recommend to not use any form of screen (cell phone, computer etc) for 3-4 months and work on diet such as milk, vit c (fruits), water, green tea and omega 3 (thera tears).

If you want a resource or a link here it is: http://www.cure-dryeyes.com/mystory.....dlNXvD6R.dpbs

With time the inflammation will decrease and after 3-4 months it will completely disappear. I have it since 3 years now and its easier said then done. It takes hard work and with the current boom of technology this isnt easy. Im stuck between finding a job and student life which requires computer use. If my financial situation was better this is something I would have tried. I did try it this summer but after a month I gave up. A month doesnt look like much but lemme tell its a lot of time, it just shows you it takes time. I dont have to do this for 1 month to heal but 3-4 months at least. Hopefully the link I gave you will give you hope. If you have this diagnosis then dont let dry eyes control your life which is something that was happening to me. Its first important to be well psychologically and if you beat this psychologically you will beat it one day physically. For me im in a very complex situation, I want to study in programming soon but I would feel very stupid knowing my eyes wont heal, the timing is very bad for me.

I also think restasis is a waste of time and money and artificial tears too.

[cathy8889]

Hey, the only thing I would say is that everyone with dry eye is probably fobbed of by ophthalmologists with the regular dry eye diagnosis, it's not a real diagnosis , it's and overarching term that ophthalmologists use that enables them to get away from finding a proper cause, same with evaporative dry eye, it's not a diagnosis, something is causing the tears to evaporate quicker than in a healthy eye. Artificial tears are not a waste of time and money because they but you time whilst you figure out what is really casusinf your dry eye.

So I can make my eyes produce more tears by eating well is what you are saying?

Thanks

[dryeye4ever]

Hey, the only thing I would say is that everyone with dry eye is probably fobbed of by ophthalmologists with the regular dry eye diagnosis, it's not a real diagnosis , it's and overarching term that ophthalmologists use that enables them to get away from finding a proper cause, same with evaporative dry eye, it's not a diagnosis, something is causing the tears to evaporate quicker than in a healthy eye. Artificial tears are not a waste of time and money because they but you time whilst you figure out what is really casusinf your dry eye.

So I can make my eyes produce more tears by eating well is what you are saying?

Thanks

Yes... the body heals itself. I think even post lasik can be healed as it doesnt look like an evaporative dry eye problem which looks more complex but anyone with regular dry eye shouldnt worry one bit.

[dominorose]

I don't want to be rude, but it is very easy for someone with a mild condition to say everyone can be cured. I mean... If we are investigating the diet side, it's only because we still suffer and NEED something that could - maybe - bring relief. We have the NEED to be proactive, to try things. Changing our diets is the first step when we need to act on our health you know. I would love to stop my computer use, but I can't. That's not in my power. Diet change is.

[dryeye4ever]

I don't want to be rude, but it is very easy for someone with a mild condition to say everyone can be cured. I mean... If we are investigating the diet side, it's only because we still suffer and NEED something that could - maybe - bring relief. We have the NEED to be proactive, to try things. Changing our diets is the first step when we need to act on our health you know. I would love to stop my computer use, but I can't. That's not in my power. Diet change is.

I know for me right now its impossible but it could have been when I was younger which is why I wish I had earlier in my life. I used to have a regular desktop computer with an adjusted screen and a small repair on a laptop and boom. We seem to forget that our eyes are very valuable and screens are getting brighter and smaller and we never warn the effects on those on our eyes.

[DryInUpstateNY]

I do mean to be rude. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You speak in generalities and as a "know it all".

Diet? I have lost nearly 40 lbs. eating like a rabbit and although my body feels better and my eyes do to, it's not the end all.

Just stop computers huh? What about the guy whose a software programmer and supports a family of 4 working on a computer?

You're just some student w/ the benefit of being able to turn off your gadgets. I have to work on a computer to feed my family. Do I tell the company I have to take 4 months off? whatever buddy. what happens when you get back in routine of using the computer for work? talk to me then Capt. Obvious.

It's not the same for everyone. You're implying people w/ dry eye are sitting around w/ a plate of fries and some Pepsi, texting on an iphone all day. There are plenty of people who live clean that have the issue.

Restasis is not a joke or waste of money. It's been a night and day difference for some.

I will agree to one thing. Clean living will make it better.
1. Good sleep.
2. Good food.
3. Lots of water. Like A LOT of water.
4. Less stress.

but that is basically the answer to anything. is an obvious answer. Live well and you'll feel well?

Thanks for that.

Let me take my sarcasm filter off.

[DryInUpstateNY]

and what is a 'regular' dry eye diagnoses?

I'm aqueous deficient. no mgd. is that 'regular'?

[dryeye4ever]

I do mean to be rude. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You speak in generalities and as a "know it all".

Diet? I have lost nearly 40 lbs. eating like a rabbit and although my body feels better and my eyes do to, it's not the end all.

Just stop computers huh? What about the guy whose a software programmer and supports a family of 4 working on a computer?

You're just some student w/ the benefit of being able to turn off your gadgets. I have to work on a computer to feed my family. Do I tell the company I have to take 4 months off? whatever buddy. what happens when you get back in routine of using the computer for work? talk to me then Capt. Obvious.

It's not the same for everyone. You're implying people w/ dry eye are sitting around w/ a plate of fries and some Pepsi, texting on an iphone all day. There are plenty of people who live clean that have the issue.

Restasis is not a joke or waste of money. It's been a night and day difference for some.

I will agree to one thing. Clean living will make it better.
1. Good sleep.
2. Good food.
3. Lots of water. Like A LOT of water.
4. Less stress.

but that is basically the answer to anything. is an obvious answer. Live well and you'll feel well?

Thanks for that.

Let me take my sarcasm filter off.

I did say Im not an expert on the subject but dont try to be a jerk it wont work. All the BS ive read about dry eyes and all is actually a joke. Do you know how it kills a young adult psychologically to read that dry eyes have no cure while you can recover? Again, I linked you with a true story from a guy working as an I.T who was able to recover by taking a few months off. Atleast I backup what I say. I have had this condition for 3 years and im still not cured because I dont have enough motivation to stay off screens and at some points I was able to. As for your situation well why do you think I said its easier said then done? If you work at the computer then you can be stuck and read the part where I mention about programming. Its all good and stuff to be wanting to study programming but if your eyes dont allow you to then you need to heal them as plain and simple. Im in my mid 20's, you cant just say well cope with them. Cope with what, another 20-40 years of dry eyes? It doesnt work that way. I think you know its painful since you have it, the cornea keeps being dry and this leads to extreme eye pain. Other people have no idea what this pain feels like like your parents or relatives or etc.

As for the no screens part, Im not BS'ing you, it was recommend by my ophtalmologist to not go on the computer more then 20 minutes and tv 5 minutes in a healing process. I personally know a young kid that went through dry eyes at a young age and he had no choice but to go play soccer with his friends for a few months instead of playing games and watching TV. After all, his mother forced him to do it because he didnt want to see his 12 years old son have this condition for another 50-60 years. I think you get the picture. So you think one day there will be a miracle potion or fix or your eyes? The only knock on this forum is that its depressing to read as it feels like a lost battle. There are some people here that have had this condition for 5-10 + years but are still talking about diet.

PS: I do feel bad about your situation,I hope one day you can recover from it just as me and everyone else but actions speak louder then words. Its just not worth being depressed and letting this condition kill your life. Im just saying how it is, Big Pharma tries to actually make money with these drops, Restasis and etc. A human body can heal itself naturally. I personally tried Restasis and I found them ok but they didnt reduce inflammation and they are expensive as hell. I prefer thick gel or drops. The 4 months break Im talking about is to heal completely. After 4 months you would be able to work on a computer without feeling the dry eyes symptoms, you will be free of them.

[DryInUpstateNY]

it's not as easy as "fix your diet and stop computers". that's my point.

you're talking in circles. the reason people are still talking about diet is because it does help, but it's not the be all end all like that "IT professional" made it out to be. He could've had a very unique situation. Don't lump it all into "diet and stopping gadgets".

[dryeye4ever]

it's not as easy as "fix your diet and stop computers". that's my point.

you're talking in circles. the reason people are still talking about diet is because it does help, but it's not the be all end all like that "IT professional" made it out to be. He could've had a very unique situation. Don't lump it all into "diet and stopping gadgets".

I talked to him on this forums, he said stopping screens is a must in his recovery and I agree. His situation was a hormonal problem.How the hell you think I can recover if I keep using the computer for 6 hours a day? Its like saying im gonna lose fat but im gonna eat 8 big macs a day. Fix your diet is the only way out man. Restasis wont help you recover and any drug or pill on the market isnt efficient enough to fix a dry eye inflammaation in a matter of days or hours. Maybe in a Hollywood movie.

[dominorose]

Because stopping all screens worked for you doesn't mean it will work for everyone. You seem to be convinced to have found the cure... I would love you had, but unfortunately I spent more than a month limiting my computer use in the early stages of this hell... It didn't help as much as Doxy or Azyter, believe me.

[MGD666]

dominorose - what form and what dose of Azyter did you use, and for how long? I am seriously considering trying it, but am interested in how (and to what extent) it has helped others here... thanks.

[Minni]

EMFs, eye-cup mugs, onion goggles etc.

I talked to him on this forums, he said stopping screens is a must in his recovery and I agree. His situation was a hormonal problem.How the hell you think I can recover if I keep using the computer for 6 hours a day? Its like saying im gonna lose fat but im gonna eat 8 big macs a day. Fix your diet is the only way out man. Restasis wont help you recover and any drug or pill on the market isnt efficient enough to fix a dry eye inflammaation in a matter of days or hours. Maybe in a Hollywood movie.

In an interview, Sammy Jo Wilkinson of an MS group stated that adult stem cell infusion helped at least one patient gain improved vision. So why wouldn't that also help dry eyes - perhaps?

In another vein, this video of an Australian professional, zapped by heavy computer use, is relevant to y'all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLO25nyauDg

Aside from eyedrops, y'all might wanna try using your hot coffee-mugs as an "eyecup" alternative to refreshing tea bags, by resting each eye, one by one, on the rim of 20-oz. hot-coffee mugs. Perhaps Oolong-tea & other tea's are good too. It doesn't matter if the milk & sweetener are added, that's OK.
Good practice in reading runes!

For the record, I've been anti computer EMFs since long ago on dryeyezone, when hardly anyone was even acknowledging it.

As of right now, my eye is stabbing me (and splitting my head into a migraine)
The guard dogs are useless (causing blurriness and they also fog up & are too close to eyes)

My AquaSphere goggles are unfortunately smoke-tinted - I should have ordered the clear lens, but hindsight is better than foresight.

Do RSVP Onion Goggles fog up the way these useless Guard Dogs do?

[lizlou29]

dominorose - what form and what dose of Azyter did you use, and for how long? I am seriously considering trying it, but am interested in how (and to what extent) it has helped others here... thanks.

Hi MGD666, I know this question wasn't for me but I use Azyter, I'm in the UK. 0.5% Azithromycin in PF vials. I use for 5 consecutive days, one drop rubbed onto the lid margins with a clean finger before bedtime. I can't use it in the morning as some inevitably gets onto the eye surface and it burns. I notice that after 5 days when I express my MG's they produce a clearer oil, rather than the usual yellow oil. It's not a cure for me and I'm having manual expression done every 2 months but these two together have enabled me to continue working as I was considering leaving my job. My eyes are still sore and bother me every day but the pain isn't as overwhelming as before. Doxy didn't help me unfortunately.

[irish eyes]

Hi Lizilou

I'm highjacking this thread too! You use Azyter? Do you mind me asking if you get this from your GP / consultant? I wasn't aware it was available in UK.

Pleased to here that things have improved and you can stay in your job a while longer.