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  • Rosacea, SLK, & hope thanks to pursuing other opinions

    Like almost all of you I have had to pursue other physicians to get a diagnosis. I was hesitant to do this as my ophthalmologist literally saved my eyes in 1988 when I had a severe case of Stevens Johnsons that would have left most people blind. To this day ophthalmologists are amazed at the condition of my eyes considering I had the worst case of Stevens Johnsons my allergist and dermatologist had ever seen.

    I will be forever grateful to my ophthalmologist but for my current problem he did miss something and I am aware that no person is perfect. But I saw 2 other ophthalmologists in his practice, 2 optometrists and they all missed an important part of my diagnosis. In fact I asked one of the new young ophthalmologists as he could give me no definitive answers if I should be referred to a university as my case was so complicated. He actually told me that there was no need for that and they could not do any more for me. That is total arrogance. The mistake that physicians make is that if they do not know, they should help the patient seek additional consultations to work with the patient to get the best results.

    It was very interesting that Rebecca wrote that it takes the average dry eye syndrome patient seven different physicians to get a proper diagnosis and treatment.

    The new ophthalmologist I went to has known the ophthalmologist who saved my eyes for 20 years and they consult frequently with each other and she said he would not be insulted and sent him my new information. I was worried about this as I went on my own but she assured me he would not be insulted.

    She found I had the following:

    ocular rosacea
    Superior Limbic Keratitis (SLK)
    and mild dry eyes through Schirmers test appropriate for age

    My medications were changed and further testing for thyroid was advised. I have already had autoimmune testing which has been negative.

    One interesting thing I found out for all rosacea sufferers is heat on the eyes is not always advisable. I have found that myself as I changed my protocol just 5 days ago and my eyes were the best they have been for months when I went to my appointment. Refrigerating the eye drops though have been very helpful.

    I have not been using heat but have been cleansing my face and eyes frequently with the fairly new product Rosacea Relief gel cleanser from Eucerin which can be purchased at CVS or Walgreens not Target or Wal-Mart.

    I found it very soothing and my eyes did improve dramatically. I stopped the heat treatments on my own as I was really overdoing the heat and my eye lids were becoming sore and more irritated. This doctor who specializes in Rosacea and who is in your dry eye directory for Illinois said for me heat on the eyelids was not good. She had never heard of this product and was impressed with my hygiene and has her own method of cleansing which is on the Rosacea foundation in Barrington Illinois website and I will now be trying.

    Reference: www.rosacea.org/rr/2006/winter/article_2.php

    She also loves and carries The Dry Eye Remedy book for her patients by Dr. Latkany listed recommended reading on Dry Eye Zone.

    My medications have been changed, but until I see how they work I will not mention them.

    Again, thank you Rebecca for this site as it does give hope and encourages people to try different physicians for different opinions and to not give up!


    brudni
    Last edited by brudni; 09-Aug-2007, 07:28. Reason: References added, sorry for original omission.

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    Brudni,
    Could you give us more information about the new eyelid cleansing technique that you have found? Perhaps even the link? It sounds very interesting. I too have ocular rosacea and am always looking for new ways to manage it. My current strategy doesn't seem to be working very well.


    Eli

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      Oh, I see you have just put it up. Thanks!
      Not really anything new here though. Dilute baby shampoo has been used for years. Doesn't seem to help me. Oh well.

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        I just edited with references.

        I sincerely apologize as I did not folllow proper protocol for references and am new to forums and posting on the web. I am learning though so please forgive me.

        I have referenced the article in the updated post.

        The web page is www.rosacea.org/rr/2006/winter/article_2.php

        and it is the Rosacea.org website.

        For myself I have not tried this method yet but have been putting the gel directly on my closed eyelid. I will be trying this method starting today.

        brudni

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          No problem. I rarely follow protocol myself!
          So you put the gel right on your eyes, huh? There can be some caveats to using skin products near the eyes, though. For instance metrogel has not been made into an opthalmic preparation yet. Still, some doctors recomend to their patients that they use it directly on their eyelids, while most docs do not. I wish they could all come to an agreement!

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            To Eli

            Originally posted by Eli
            Oh, I see you have just put it up. Thanks!
            Not really anything new here though. Dilute baby shampoo has been used for years. Doesn't seem to help me. Oh well.

            I don't know if this is the right way to respond, but Eli, I don't really think it was my method, I think it ws the Rosacea Rellief gel which is very soothing, more so than Ocusoft for me and also not using heat. I did not try her method yet. I did not use a washcloth but put gel directly on eyelid and patted dry with hands.

            Have you tried the Rosacea Relief gel cleanser?
            brudni

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              Called Eucerin concerning use directly on eyes

              Originally posted by Eli
              No problem. I rarely follow protocol myself!
              So you put the gel right on your eyes, huh? There can be some caveats to using skin products near the eyes, though. For instance metrogel has not been made into an opthalmic preparation yet. Still, some doctors recomend to their patients that they use it directly on their eyelids, while most docs do not. I wish they could all come to an agreement!
              I just called Eucerin 1-800-227-4703 as they have a number on the tube of Redness Relief Soothing cleanser for questions. I asked if it could be used directly on the eyelid and they said yes. They aslo have a website which I have not gone to. www.eucerin.com

              I tried it again. Very soothing and did not use a washcloth. However, I am not a dermatologist. It just seems to help me more than anything else so far.

              I did a little experiment. Cleaned with ocusoft pad on one eye and Redness Relief Soothing cleanser on other eye. It was far more soothing with just the gel, no washcloth or pad. But my eyes are sensitive. My dermatologist told me to never use a washcloth. It seems there is no agreement on this issue just like Metrogel.
              Last edited by brudni; 09-Aug-2007, 08:22. Reason: Editing phone number 800 not 888

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