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  • #46
    Hey ,
    another very interesting artice,which says we should give Flaxseed oil a chance for at least 1 year.
    You can only get advantage from it in all ways.

    And remember Fish oil is different from Flaxseed oil ! The chain of omega 3 in fish oil is long,while the chain in flaxseed is short . There's a difference !

    Short omega 3 chain (flaxseed) is much more effective for MGD ,than the long one !

    Long omega 3 (fish oil)3 is much more effective for inflammation !

    The best combo in my opinion is to take both of them /Long+short omega3 chain / !

    "Long term intake of omega 3 fish oil causes vit E deficiency ,so better combine it with vit E


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2646454/

    In summary, the importance of omega-3 essential FAs in the diet is evident, as well as the need to return to a more physiologic omega-6 to omega-3 ratio of 4:1 rather than the ratio of 15–18:1 provided by current Western diets. To improve the ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 essential FAs, it is necessary to decrease the intake of omega-6 FAs from vegetable oils and to increase the intake of omega-3 FAs by using oils rich in omega-3 FAs. Experimental studies have provided evidence that dietary supplementation of omega-3 FAs modifies inflammatory and immune reactions, making omega-3 FAs potential therapeutic agents for inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. Their effects are brought about by modulation of the type and amount of eicosanoids and cytokines and by altering gene expression. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first demonstration of a change in the FA saturation content in meibum. There is a clear need for more carefully designed and controlled clinical trials in the therapeutic application of omega-3 FAs in blepharitis, MGD, and the evaporative dry eye.

    My initial hypothesis was that overwhelming the FA metabolic pathway with omega-3 FA molecules results in competitive inhibition of omega-6 FA metabolism, reducing the overall inflammatory state of the eyelid margin and meibomian glands. As blepharitis, MGD, and dry eye are thought to be inflammatory diseases, a reduction in the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio may alleviate the associated discomforts patients experience from these chronic disease states. The increase in the plasma and RBC concentrations of omega-3 and the decrease in the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio that were measured in the study population demonstrate that dietary supplementation with flaxseed oil, as a source of omega-3 FAs, can affect the FA metabolic pathway. The improvements found in OSDI scores in the flaxseed oil group, as well as the decrease in lid margin telangiectasias and meibomian gland blockage, further support this hypothesis.

    The second hypothesis assumed that supplementing the patients’ diets with high amounts of omega-3 FAs could change the FA composition and properties of meibomian gland secretions in patients with blepharitis and MGD. I theorized that this change may be beneficial in tear stabilization and may prevent inflammation of meibomian gland ducts and meibum stagnation. There was a significant increase in the saturated FA content of the meibum in the flaxseed oil group at 1 year (P = .04), but no change was found in the olive oil group. In both groups (flaxseed and olive oil) there was a statistically significant improvement in the TBUT, meibum quality, and number of visible ducts as compared to baseline. Though there was a slight change in the meibomian gland secretions detected, these were actually found in the meibum quality of both groups.

    Statistically significant findings were seen only when the data were segregated to examine the “healthy” meibum (score < 1.5). Patients with healthy meibum had less meibomian gland orifice stenosis (P = .04), higher plasma omega-3 FA levels (P = .08), lower plasma omega-6 to omega-3 ratios (P = .03), and lower RBC omega-6 to omega-3 ratios (P = .05). Lower meibum saturated FAs levels (28%, P = .04) were found in the healthy meibum group. Saturated FAs, which are solid at body temperature, have higher melting points than their unsaturated FA counterparts, which are often liquid at body temperature. The fact that the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio was not correlated with the meibum score may mean that there is a ratio threshold in which the ocular health begins to improve. In other words, there is not a graded effect as a significant correlation would indicate; rather, a threshold ratio is required for a clinical change to be identified. Further analysis of this threshold ratio is required.

    Current drug therapies have many side effects and do not treat both evaporative and aqueous deficient components of the dry eye. Nutritional supplementation with omega-3 FAs, either as an alternative or an adjunct therapy, holds great promise in the treatment of blepharitis, MGD, and the evaporative dry eye. In designing clinical interventions, genetic variation and sex-related differences in androgen levels should be taken into consideration, as the level of cytokines is, to a great extent, genetically determined, and the dose or amount of omega-3 FAs necessary to suppress the proinflammatory state may vary. This study supports the role of inflammation in the etiology of MGD and the resulting evaporative dry eye disease. It also demonstrates, for the first time scientifically, that omega-3 FA dietary supplementation can improve both ocular health and patient dry eye symptoms. Still, the number of patients examined in this study was small, and further work in a larger group of patients is warranted. Ultimately, the use flaxseed oil (ALA), fish oil (EPA and DHA), and potentially olive oil (polyphenols) may have an enhanced effect on ocular inflammation. Additional work is also needed to elucidate numerous treatment components, including the effects on meibum, inflammatory mediators in the tears, and the lacrimal gland based on sex, age, and supplement dose.
    Last edited by martin93; 22-Jun-2013, 10:09.

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    • #47
      Sighthound,
      We haven’t heard from you in a while. Have you had any follow-up appointments with the optometrist?

      Were you able to find out how he treated the patients that had been probed, what co-morbidities he diagnosed, what treatments he prescribed for the co-morbidities and their efficacy.

      So far since my last probing, about 7 months ago, my meibum continues to improve. We are treating bacteria and demodex mites, but the glands are not blocked and the meibum is flowing well.

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      • #48
        I go to my opt next week. I will let you know what he says. He is going to do gland expressions with the paddle. Also, he gave me some Hylogel and it feels very good. It is new to canada, and I am not sure if it is in the States yet. But it is the best lubricating drop I have tried. No preservatives.

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        • #49
          Martin93,
          How are your eyes feeling since your probing on June 10th?

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          • #50
            Probing may not be the magic bullet some people make it out to be but my Doctor probed my glands and found them nearly all to be blocked. Now you don't need a medical degree to understand the simple logic that even if the MG glands are working properly if there is tissue blocking the openings your not going to have secretions. That's just my 2 cents. I have noticed some improvement since I got probed. Like I said it may not be the end all cure all but as Rebecca always points out, it's a tool that people with dry should explore if they can. Dr. ****** is quite expensive and insurance coverage is complicated with him. My doctor did for dirt cheap and now my plan is to fly down to see ****** soon to have a general evaluation and go from there because he does do further things besides probing like steroid injections that I would like to explore.

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            • #51
              Does a meibography show if the glands are blocked?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cali View Post
                Does a meibography show if the glands are blocked?
                No, meibography shows the condition of the glands -are they atrophied or not .
                Your doctor can tell if they are blocked by pressing them with q-tip under slit lamp . If the secretion is not clear and liquid,then you have meibomian gland problems.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cali View Post
                  Does a meibography show if the glands are blocked?
                  Meibography shows the outline of the glands and from this you can tell if the glands have dropped out or are atrophied.

                  Slit lamp shows if the glands are blocked because oil is either secreted or not secreted. But the slit can’t show if there is blockage deeper in. If, for example, an acini near the orifice is functioning and secreting, it may seem that the entire gland is functioning, even though the rest of the gland is blocked or has dropped out.

                  An indicator for blockage that is deeper in is lid tenderness. If you press on the lids, and they are tender, blockage is very likely.

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                  • #54
                    OK. I had a meibography done and it showed that roughly 85%-90% of my glands have not dropped out or atrophied. But, apparently the meibography doesn't show if the glands are blocked or are fully functioning.

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                    • #55
                      sighthound, how did the appointment go?

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                      • #56
                        Cali,
                        That's great. With that many glands that are opened and functioning, you should be able to produce a good quantity of meibum. For the ocular rosacea, have you tried anything like Cliradex to treat demodex mites? And is there anything systemic or autoimmune that you might be dealing with also?

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                        • #57
                          I had my glands expressed and the lids margins sort of exfoliated. My opt uses a tool to scrape of old epithelial cells. But he will be getting the Blephex tool soon to do the same thing. He said my glands plug up very quickly between expressions. I go again in 2 more weeks. I asked if he had seen a patient before and after probing, and he said only after. But he said that he has never seen glands as twisted as those that have been probed.
                          I used lotemax ointment on the lids for 2 weeks, but I don't think it did anything. I will see what he says in a few weeks, but I feel like nothing is helping. Some of my glands are atrophied, and I can really feel it. 7.5 years of fighting this, and I just keep getting worse. There is supposed to be an arthritis drug eye drop coming out in the future (probably a couple of years) that is getting good results in trials. Hope the rest of my glands can hold on that long.

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                          • #58
                            sighthound, from everything you say, it sounds like you really do need to get your meibomian glands probed. Expressing alone won't do it, neither will cleaning the lid margins, although this should help. Your glands are blocked and your meibum may be thick like toothpaste. Also, probing can restore function to glands that are atrophied. Please consider it.

                            The twisting of the glands was not caused by probing. If the glands were twisted after probing then they were also twisted before probing. But probing does not cause twisting. I speak from experience having been probed several times as I've mentioned in other posts. The last time was in January of this year. At my appointment, just yesterday with Dr. ******, he checked all of my glands and I am producing a very good quantity of meibum, both eyes all lids. If I ever need to be probed again, it will be a long time before it happens.

                            You might try contacting Dr. ****** and describe your symptoms to him, just like you did here. He'll give you some good advice. You can contact him via his website:

                            http://dr******.com/

                            Click on the Contact Dr. ****** link on the left side of the home page. You can post your questions to him there.

                            I would recommend it. You don't want to lose any more glands than you already have. Please consider it. I am feeling so much better. It's taken a long time but the results speak for themselves.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by sighthound View Post
                              I had my glands expressed and the lids margins sort of exfoliated. My opt uses a tool to scrape of old epithelial cells. But he will be getting the Blephex tool soon to do the same thing. He said my glands plug up very quickly between expressions. I go again in 2 more weeks. I asked if he had seen a patient before and after probing, and he said only after. But he said that he has never seen glands as twisted as those that have been probed.
                              I used lotemax ointment on the lids for 2 weeks, but I don't think it did anything. I will see what he says in a few weeks, but I feel like nothing is helping. Some of my glands are atrophied, and I can really feel it. 7.5 years of fighting this, and I just keep getting worse. There is supposed to be an arthritis drug eye drop coming out in the future (probably a couple of years) that is getting good results in trials. Hope the rest of my glands can hold on that long.
                              Don't give up! My doctor told me that if the glands have been clogged for a long time it's not unusual for it to take a series of treatments before they will stay open longer. Also it takes many years for them all to atrophy. If you lost a few you can still be OK. Feel free to PM me if you want more info or to talk.

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                              • #60
                                That's right. MG's do not atrophy overnight. It takes a long time. But the sooner you get this addressed properly the better.

                                Feel free to contact me as well via PM. We can talk any time.

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