can blepharitis cause permanent damage to sclera?

[curemeplz]

Hi just want to throw it out there.. Are there chornic blepharitis suffer out there experience with chornic red veins in their eyes? I've suffer from this problem for eleven years, but never really treated because i didn't know what it was back then ( i was nine years old). Although i told my parents my eyes were comfortable, the eye doctor did not properly dignoised me. I am just sick and tire of the redness and the dryness cause from it.. As for now, i haven't seen a specialist yet due to $ issues. I just wanna ask are there anybody who sucessfully treated the redness cause from blepharitis? i am getting discourage because of the looks of my eyes = =

[Tankie]

This is a very good question. I'm sure someone who knows more about it than me will come along shortly.

That said, I believe that it is possible, but unlikely that you will do any permanent damage to your sclera. Just make sure you keep it lubricated as much as possible, and remember, if you have damaged it, your sclera is a living thing, and it can heal.

I'd highly recommend using eye drops during the day, and ointment at night (even if you hate the feeling you get when you wake up).

Also, 9/10 people will disagree with me on this, but I use ointment during the day as well (not just at night), and I rub away the excess ointment with a tissue to clear up the blurry vision. For me, it really keeps my eyes lubricated and let's me go about my business with minimal discomfort.

Just in case you're wondering, I use:
- TheraTears eye drops (preservative free, comes in little vials)
- Lacri-Lube ointment (preservative free)

I'd be willing to bet that with about 3-4 days of heavy lubrication and eye drops, your red veins will start to disappear and your sclera will be a lot more white.

[curemeplz]

As i did more research, i think my veins are called conjuncitivochalasis what type of veins are those ? And right now, i am just using Systane balance lubricant eyedrops Restorative formula like 4 times a day. . How does the ointment help with the veins?

[Tankie]

Ointment helps with the veins because they help keep the eyes lubricated.

Unlike eye drops, ointment does not evaporate, so it sticks around for longer and keeps your eyes feeling moist.

One last thing, just so this is explicit, I recommend using both eye drops and ointment simultaneously. First use the eye drops, then right afterwards put in the ointment.

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I too will use ointment during the day if I feel the eyes are having a really bad day. I do the same as Tankie and just wipe away the excess and my eyes stay lubricated longer and then I don't need my drops as much either.
I also suffer from chronic red veins now after lasik surgery (never had this before). I treat my blepharitis on a regular basis but the red veins remain.
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[curemeplz]

hey fred, how does your eyes feel in the morning? does the red veins in your eyes look like they are irritated ? if you have MGD, does the lower part of ur eyes suffer from inflammation?

[Mastiff]

Just throwing this out there but my eyes have gotten noticeably whiter since I started taking huge amounts of anti-oxidants. I first noticed the improvement when I was drinking a lot of Lipton tea during the day (the label talks about all the anti-oxidants). So I ordered alpha-lipoic acid, coenzyme Q10, lutein with bilberry, and C. When I take these my eyes are much whiter. It's night and day and I have little doubt the vitamins are doing it. I wonder if with dry eyes you don't get as many nutrients to the surface of your eyes. Having huge amounts maybe makes the best of the tears you do get? Just guessing at the cause.

[littlemermaid]

curemeplz: The Ocular Surface journal 2009 supplement, Tear Film and Ocular Surface Society, Lemp and Nichols, accessible concise summaries by Foulkes, Lindstrom, McDonald, O'Brien. iCare-TOS-supplement 24 page pdf. Everyone explains how long-term, bearable but untreated, blepharitis could lead to damage - surface apoptosis, lid margin, lid alignment, eyelash alignment, glands. (O'Brien on pre-laser surgery contraindications)

Blitzing mild lid margin disorders with antibacterials without helpful gentle warmth and cleaning, tear film maintenance drops, wraparounds etc, can lead to complications too, especially on the eye surface (PubMed - Baodouin). The goal is maintenance and healing.

if you have MGD, does the lower part of ur eyes suffer from inflammation?

Can you tell us more about the inflammation - is it a red eye on the surface only, or are the inside lower lid and lid margin red too? Do you have pain from this? Can you see OK? Is there any chance you can at least get an optometrist to have a look if you can't get to an ophthalmology doctor? It would be so good for you to get an assessment of what's actually happening.

You seriously need someone to look whether those veins are progressing into the cornea (clear surface over the iris), at the very least a GP or a pharmacist or nurse could do that with a pen torch.

[Eagle1]

Isn't Conjunctivitis An Infection?

Just a Question, Isn't Conjunctivitis an Infection?

Warning, I've just learned that Kenalog isn't really licensed for the Eye, but opthalmologists have been using it 30 yrs because it seemingly works for some people, and it seems that usually patients don't have any problems, at least not recognized, with the first injection. Most doctors seem to be prejudiced against computers, and don't keep up with latest news since they were in school.

Corticosteroids are especially dangerous if you're low thyroid, even if you take large doses of thyroid meds, you can find out by online searching. There's a Metabolic Clearance or Drainage problem, I'm unable to find more about so far. Might need to use your pre-existing conditions, including heart problems, as an excuse to request time to look up possible adverse side effects of any med. Seems there are already a few Class Action lawsuits about Kenalog, doctors probably won't even know about.

[littlemermaid]

Most doctors seem to be prejudiced against computers, and don't keep up with latest news since they were in school.

I am interested in this too, Eagle1. How come we are current from this forum, and Rebecca's blog, and from scholar alerts from PubMed, Medscape, journals and conferences, able to look up drug side effects and contraindications, and they are not doing this so much?

I am very happy to see docs looking up drug doses/kg in formularies, it gives me confidence in them, and would love them to use their computers in the consultation. I find we are seeing specialists to tell us medical information and risk that Mermaid (teenager now) knows more about from her internet phone.

However, I would say that the more I read, the more it makes me appreciate some docs astonishing skill, expertise, experience and bravery, and this is what I treasure now.

[spmcc]

Warning, I've just learned that Kenalog isn't really licensed for the Eye, but opthalmologists have been using it 30 yrs because it seemingly works for some people, and it seems that usually patients don't have any problems, at least not recognized, with the first injection.

FYI Kenalog is what ****** injects into the meibomian glands after probing (if elected).

[curemeplz]

curemeplz: The Ocular Surface journal 2009 supplement, Tear Film and Ocular Surface Society, Lemp and Nichols, accessible concise summaries by Foulkes, Lindstrom, McDonald, O'Brien. iCare-TOS-supplement 24 page pdf. Everyone explains how long-term, bearable but untreated, blepharitis could lead to damage - surface apoptosis, lid margin, lid alignment, eyelash alignment, glands. (O'Brien on pre-laser surgery contraindications)

Blitzing mild lid margin disorders with antibacterials without helpful gentle warmth and cleaning, tear film maintenance drops, wraparounds etc, can lead to complications too, especially on the eye surface (PubMed - Baodouin). The goal is maintenance and healing.

Can you tell us more about the inflammation - is it a red eye on the surface only, or are the inside lower lid and lid margin red too? Do you have pain from this? Can you see OK? Is there any chance you can at least get an optometrist to have a look if you can't get to an ophthalmology doctor? It would be so good for you to get an assessment of what's actually happening.

You seriously need someone to look whether those veins are progressing into the cornea (clear surface over the iris), at the very least a GP or a pharmacist or nurse could do that with a pen torch.

Hey, um well i got checked properly when i was about 15 years old, but i probably notice i had dry eyes when i was ten, but the optometrist said my eyes are healthy, i was just told the red veins came from playing too much video games or Tv. So yea i had poor doctor care when i was at a young age. I went to see a MD on treating dry eyes about a month ago, he told me is a chronic condition and recommended me to do doxcy 50mg for 3 months and 5 times a day for tears along with OMega 3 and warm compresses. As for pain goes, if i used the tears five times a day, my eyes see to operating fine, it just get a little senstivie to bring classroom lights. Other then that it seems ok. As for the veins in my eyes, my doctor said it is cause from the chronic
irritation. For example, my lower lids have red veins cause by probably the MGD/ dryness, and there are red veins on the surface of my eyes.. I am sure is not an infection. Overall, after a month of doxcy, it seem my eyes got a little whiter, but the veins are still there. I am just really tire of the veins being visible in the sufrace of my eyes. I dont understand why i have this condtion at a young age, I am at an age of 19, even the doctor said my case is rare for male at this age = = . I am really started to hate how my eyes look, the worst part is, this is a chronic condition, I am at a young age still, and i have no idea what i 've done to desserve this disease so early in my life

[Alan27]

Hey, um well i got checked properly when i was about 15 years old, but i probably notice i had dry eyes when i was ten, but the optometrist said my eyes are healthy, i was just told the red veins came from playing too much video games or Tv. So yea i had poor doctor care when i was at a young age. I went to see a MD on treating dry eyes about a month ago, he told me is a chronic condition and recommended me to do doxcy 50mg for 3 months and 5 times a day for tears along with OMega 3 and warm compresses. As for pain goes, if i used the tears five times a day, my eyes see to operating fine, it just get a little senstivie to bring classroom lights. Other then that it seems ok. As for the veins in my eyes, my doctor said it is cause from the chronic
irritation. For example, my lower lids have red veins cause by probably the MGD/ dryness, and there are red veins on the surface of my eyes.. I am sure is not an infection. Overall, after a month of doxcy, it seem my eyes got a little whiter, but the veins are still there. I am just really tire of the veins being visible in the sufrace of my eyes. I dont understand why i have this condtion at a young age, I am at an age of 19, even the doctor said my case is rare for male at this age = = . I am really started to hate how my eyes look, the worst part is, this is a chronic condition, I am at a young age still, and i have no idea what i 've done to desserve this disease so early in my life

Not just video games or watching too much TV, but also from driving and reading. Basically anything that puts too much stress on your eyes while they are sick, tired, irritated, dry and your eyeslids are inflamed will do that too.

But yeah, the red veins that appear when you play video games are usually bigger than the red veins that appear when you read or drive.

[Alan27]

By the way don't think of using those eyedrops that advertise how they will "get the red out", they will lower the blood circulation in your eyes and only make your problem worse.

[curemeplz]

Hi guys, so i was mistaken about my condition... After i have seen an eye doctor, he diagnosis me to have this condition called MGD and my dryness caused by it and thats why my lower inner eye fills with red veins... -_-. Right now, i've been on Restasis for over two months along with warm compresses and Fish oil pills.. I am happy to say that i do feel better after i started the Restasis treatment but sitll, my inner eye are just so jacked up that fill with veins that won't disappear... I was wondering if any eye drops or surgery that can get rid of those veins... I actaully had this condition a long time since when i was like 12 years old... but never really know what it was... And now i am older and do care on how my eyes look.., i am wondering if there anything i can do to get rid of those red veins... surgery? any eye drop? but i guess my first step to treat my MGD better and i was wondering if Acupuncture could work?