Things happen for a reason ... is BS

[robster]

Interesting points of view from both sides. To be totally honest I think that religion and politics shouldn't really be discussed in too much depth on any health forum as it has the potential to be too divisive. Just my two cents worth. Hang in there Tommy.

[Guest]

Interesting points of view from both sides. To be totally honest I think that religion and politics shouldn't really be discussed in too much depth on any health forum as it has the potential to be too divisive.

Well, I must say, so far everyone is being very good about it, so yay for that! Maybe we're just an extra civilized bunch so we can have a mature sharing of views without any cat fights? We're so special As you say, it's very interesting to read the points of view and how everyone ends up taking it...

And Tommyboy, so happy for you that your glasses have come back to you! Wonderful news!

Now, I'm off to relax on the couch for the evening...

[jivgil]

Hi.
I wanted to share two audio programs, which I feel help me.
The compassionate brain
http://live.soundstrue.com/compassionatebrain/event.php

Self acceptance
http://live.soundstrue.com/selfacceptance/

Those programs teach us how to accept and be compassionate to ourselves on this hard times.
And Tommyboy, I feel for you, and pray for you feeling better, physically and mentally.

And about god...
I did have some remarkable experiences in my life, including what happened, with the refractory surgery, and my eyes.
As for the pain, I was mad at god at first for causing it to me.
But now I feel more this is a mystery, of why pain happens, which I don't understand.
I less feel like blaming god for it.
I have been healed physically miraculously from most of the eye issues.
I still am dealing with the trauma I have had.
I guess this are emotional stages that one needs to go.
Dealing with anger/forgiveness was one.
Hurt was another.
I am dealing now with frustration, envy, shame.

[tommyboy]

Hemu - what is the book? Is it any good? Thanks for your feedback...

[tommyboy]

Thanks jivgil ... I will check out the links

[jivgil]

In those audio programs, they host and interview different experts.
Psychologists, neuroscientists, spiritual teachers, writers.
People who have spent their lives exploring those issues.
I have found that for me they shed light on the topics of self compassion and acceptance.
Needs a lot of reflection and practice of course.

[tommyboy]

Thanks - jivgil - I will check it out. Have not done that yet. May have my wife do that first for me