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    had no clue where to put this, so I figured this is part of my story...let’s talk about that.

    I know now that I’m feeling very good right now, not perfect by any means, but I’m getting along fine. My fear is for my future. I cam barely enjoy how I feel because I know, inevitably, this problem will return. I would like to believe that treating the apnea’s will fix my condition. Even if it does, will that make me perfect again? Of course not. I can only hope to function well. I’ll never have my old eyes back. Even now that I’m good, I realize there’s this background noise of my eyes talking to me. I never had that before, none of us did I assume.

    I fear the future. Less than before thankfully, because I feel like I have some options. However, when I went to get my pressure checked today, my corneal specialist was intrigued to find out I was using heparin. However, he said something that alarmed me because I believe its true. He said, well let’s see how long the heparin works. I guess In the back of my mind I knew the heparin wouldn’t help forever. But hearing that just brought it to my attention.

    Even if im ok for a year, two years, ten years...eventually, my eyes will break down again. I’d like to say im hopeful for medicine to learn more, to help us, but I’m not. If you go back 10+ years on the site, you see people like ourselves in the early 2000s saying, man, I can’t wait for the medicine and techniques available 10-20 years from now.

    Well, we’re here, and what do we have now? I probably wouldn’t accurately list all the advancements in dry eye. But one thing is certain, very few doctors have this information. Even if there are advancements, it seems no one can find a doctor to offer the treatments. We’re all sitting here spinning our wheels all day about lipiflow, IPL, manual expression, probing, etc. Most doctors don’t know when/how to accurately apply these techniques. My disease for example presents as advanced MGD. But if you tried treating me for that, all of your attempts would fail. Because we’re not treating the cause of the MGD.

    Im going to ramble a bit...

    I also personally fear my treatments. I know that steroids are the only thing that really help me. I’m assuming when I come off, things will get worse. I missed my steroids one day and my right eye flared by 4pm.

    im mentally ill and I don’t know if I’m going to be able to treat it. This post is a clear example of my mental illness. I’m in constant fear. I now know, that if things get hard, I will always turn toward suicide. I am certain I will end my own life one day. I can’t cope with anything. I mean, how many people do you think have bad dry eyes? And how many people are on this site? The numbers are wayyyy off. So are we here because we just can’t cope? Is our disease just that much worse than everyone else’s? I’m inclined to believe the former rather than the latter. So how do I get past that? My mental llness won’t allow me to take the drug I need to feel better.

    my daughter woke up, I’ll be back....

  • #2
    Originally posted by Dowork123 View Post
    had no clue where to put this, so I figured this is part of my story...let’s talk about that.

    I know now that I’m feeling very good right now, not perfect by any means, but I’m getting along fine. My fear is for my future. I cam barely enjoy how I feel because I know, inevitably, this problem will return. I would like to believe that treating the apnea’s will fix my condition. Even if it does, will that make me perfect again? Of course not. I can only hope to function well. I’ll never have my old eyes back. Even now that I’m good, I realize there’s this background noise of my eyes talking to me. I never had that before, none of us did I assume.

    I fear the future. Less than before thankfully, because I feel like I have some options. However, when I went to get my pressure checked today, my corneal specialist was intrigued to find out I was using heparin. However, he said something that alarmed me because I believe its true. He said, well let’s see how long the heparin works. I guess In the back of my mind I knew the heparin wouldn’t help forever. But hearing that just brought it to my attention.

    Even if im ok for a year, two years, ten years...eventually, my eyes will break down again. I’d like to say im hopeful for medicine to learn more, to help us, but I’m not. If you go back 10+ years on the site, you see people like ourselves in the early 2000s saying, man, I can’t wait for the medicine and techniques available 10-20 years from now.

    Well, we’re here, and what do we have now? I probably wouldn’t accurately list all the advancements in dry eye. But one thing is certain, very few doctors have this information. Even if there are advancements, it seems no one can find a doctor to offer the treatments. We’re all sitting here spinning our wheels all day about lipiflow, IPL, manual expression, probing, etc. Most doctors don’t know when/how to accurately apply these techniques. My disease for example presents as advanced MGD. But if you tried treating me for that, all of your attempts would fail. Because we’re not treating the cause of the MGD.

    Im going to ramble a bit...

    I also personally fear my treatments. I know that steroids are the only thing that really help me. I’m assuming when I come off, things will get worse. I missed my steroids one day and my right eye flared by 4pm.

    im mentally ill and I don’t know if I’m going to be able to treat it. This post is a clear example of my mental illness. I’m in constant fear. I now know, that if things get hard, I will always turn toward suicide. I am certain I will end my own life one day. I can’t cope with anything. I mean, how many people do you think have bad dry eyes? And how many people are on this site? The numbers are wayyyy off. So are we here because we just can’t cope? Is our disease just that much worse than everyone else’s? I’m inclined to believe the former rather than the latter. So how do I get past that? My mental llness won’t allow me to take the drug I need to feel better.

    my daughter woke up, I’ll be back....
    Hi just to inform you one company is focusing on mgds root problem dysfunctional glands. Look up azura they are creating a product that will help millions trials are in Australia at the moment but hopefully after itll spread everywhere. I hope it gives you some hope. Also there is another Australian research group who has now been able to tell the precise molecules of the oil layer (from what I read). I made a post about research on mgd. Just to make you aware some people are trying to help us mgd sufferers. I also have it but I just wanted to share some hope with you.

    please do not attempt suicide.... it gets you no where. Trust me- im a survivor i put myself in hospital due to an overdose. It only gave me regret for doing it, and blood clotting problems and I did have stomach problems for alot of the time. Its not the answer. Please pm me if you need- i know I've been snappy before im sorry just had difficulty myself too. But of all do not do it if you need to rant just pm me. I'll do my best to listen or go speak to a gp about your thoughts. This disease is hard, but slowly they are getting there. Many of us have spent money. There's a petition ongoing but I dont know what's happening to it as none of the listed people the petition was sent to have replied.

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    • #3
      Dowork123 you hit the nail on the head that’s EXACTLY how I feel, minus suicide. I do believe the people on this forum could definitely have worse symptoms than others but from reading a lot of people’s posts and including my own if you read them, you can see the mental illness or the overbearing anxiety and fear. I do believe a lot of people hear find it hard to cope whether it’s from the symptoms or the crippling anxiety of the thought of living a long life in this pain and extreme discomfort which I agree is almost impossible to sit back and be okay with. One thing that I would IMPLORE you to do if you can is PLEASE be kind to yourself. It’s not your fault you’re here as much as you think it is. If someone told you years before this problem “oh if you do all these things you will have an illness that will make you want to end your life” would you do it? Absolutely not. We are all victims of circumstance no one ever does anything to worsen themselves. Something that I find extremely helpful is that at times it feels like you’re a million miles away from where you want to be but in reality in can just be a moment a way.
      Please take this moment and enjoy the feeling if there is anyway you can just push aside that fear for two minutes! I am so sorry you are going through this and everyone on this forum, however life has and always will be suffering. We live we laugh we love and we also unfortunately ... suffer. Whether it’s dry eyes or having to be put on a dialysis machine for 4-8 hours a day every day for the rest of your life or until you have a kidney transplant, whether it be falling and breaking your back and becominga paraplegic, losing family members, partners, children, getting glaucoma and going completely blind, cancer, everyone suffers and I know this doesn’t help you and I’m not undermining your suffering I’m just trying to help you with perspective as when we suffer our feelings and views become like tunnel vision and we fester until it consumes us. You’ve got a beautiful child and from past posts if I remember a very caring and loyal partner. I know it’s hard to give them the full you and be yourself (I fully understand) but please just hang in the we truly NEVER know what’s around the corner.

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      • #4
        I think people here are both struggling mentally with their disease but also in more pain then others. Could be neuropathy, could be bad clinical signs or higher sensitivity to pain.

        I had mediocre (i.e. painless but uncomfortable) to decent stretches that lasted two months. My blinking pain was almost gone or almost always gone. To my desperation somehow it returned. I was convinced I was over that part but unfortunately I was not. Oddly enough my days are now not just mediocre but sometimes very bad and sometimes really good. This Monday I had work in a 40-50% humidity place with my coworkers. Every blink was either scraping or hurting. I could not focus on anything. On Thursday I had a decent day and on Friday my blinks became smooth and painless.

        This is not the first time it happens. It is soul crushing to go between pain and being normal. I am wary of feeling better because I can’t trust the improvement to last but I try to enjoy it as much as I can without thinking ahead.

        I wrote a post similar to yours a few months back when I was feeling better. I was scared and anxious because once I surpassed a certain amount of days, I knew that falling back into pain will not be easy.

        Take one day at a time. No point in thinking about the future in detail. You compromise present by fear. Easier said then done, of course, I struggle all the time but I do remind myself to be here. Meditation can help. The book “You are not your pain” has both some interesting scientific info and guided meditation. Of course there is always headspace, too.

        In very stressful moments, I do this exercises when you pay attention to your senses: 5 things you hear, 5 things you see, 5 things you smell, etc. It helps me come back.

        Another thing. Staying occupied. I struggle with taming my thoughts but I can fill my days, especially when I am not with pain, with good memories and activities.

        Practical ideas. I fill a daily log with my symptoms, diet, activities, eye stressors, sleep details, medication. It helps me to at least stop speculating and making wrong claims about the past. I use Google forms for this.

        Perhaps, you can find a good therapist. I could not find one. I get annoyed and angry because they don’t know chronic pain. I would love to see someone who knows what it’s like.

        Finally, hope. I think that if you have good days with steroids or not, that means your body is capable of being almost normal and normal.

        Anyways, these are my thoughts.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by epicjinx View Post

          Hi just to inform you one company is focusing on mgds root problem dysfunctional glands. Look up azura they are creating a product that will help millions trials are in Australia at the moment but hopefully after itll spread everywhere. I hope it gives you some hope. Also there is another Australian research group who has now been able to tell the precise molecules of the oil layer (from what I read). I made a post about research on mgd. Just to make you aware some people are trying to help us mgd sufferers. I also have it but I just wanted to share some hope with you.

          please do not attempt suicide.... it gets you no where. Trust me- im a survivor i put myself in hospital due to an overdose. It only gave me regret for doing it, and blood clotting problems and I did have stomach problems for alot of the time. Its not the answer. Please pm me if you need- i know I've been snappy before im sorry just had difficulty myself too. But of all do not do it if you need to rant just pm me. I'll do my best to listen or go speak to a gp about your thoughts. This disease is hard, but slowly they are getting there. Many of us have spent money. There's a petition ongoing but I dont know what's happening to it as none of the listed people the petition was sent to have replied.
          First off, don’t worry about snapping at me or anyone. It’s totally fine, I get it. I’m not upset at all. I’ve snapped on a couple people here and I’m just waiting for the right time to apologize. I feeel like I have to get mentally stable first or I risk giving an apology and then doing it all over again. I hate that I do that.

          As as for the MGD, I’d like to be hopeful. But I know for a fact they cannot find a singles treatment that cure all causes of MGD because they’re all different. The glands all malfunction for different reasons. One person has allergies, one person has a flopp eyelid and on person has rosacea...do you honstly believe they will have one single procedure or drug that will help all those people? I think they may have 20-30 different drugs and procedures one day, specific to each cause. But again, that is a long way off. If it were as simple as finding this one key that fits the lock, I agree, it would be hopeful.

          Im not going to kill myself now. I just know that I’m always looking to escape. I use marijuana to escape my pain so that I can function. Essentially I use marijuana to be part of life. Because once I melt the stress, I can function. Otherwise, I’m too high strung to get anything done properly. My hope is that the medication, lamictal, will help with that. Maybe I can quit smoking weed. That would be awesome.



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          • #6
            Originally posted by Topher3 View Post
            Dowork123 you hit the nail on the head that’s EXACTLY how I feel, minus suicide. I do believe the people on this forum could definitely have worse symptoms than others but from reading a lot of people’s posts and including my own if you read them, you can see the mental illness or the overbearing anxiety and fear. I do believe a lot of people hear find it hard to cope whether it’s from the symptoms or the crippling anxiety of the thought of living a long life in this pain and extreme discomfort which I agree is almost impossible to sit back and be okay with. One thing that I would IMPLORE you to do if you can is PLEASE be kind to yourself. It’s not your fault you’re here as much as you think it is. If someone told you years before this problem “oh if you do all these things you will have an illness that will make you want to end your life” would you do it? Absolutely not. We are all victims of circumstance no one ever does anything to worsen themselves. Something that I find extremely helpful is that at times it feels like you’re a million miles away from where you want to be but in reality in can just be a moment a way.
            Please take this moment and enjoy the feeling if there is anyway you can just push aside that fear for two minutes! I am so sorry you are going through this and everyone on this forum, however life has and always will be suffering. We live we laugh we love and we also unfortunately ... suffer. Whether it’s dry eyes or having to be put on a dialysis machine for 4-8 hours a day every day for the rest of your life or until you have a kidney transplant, whether it be falling and breaking your back and becominga paraplegic, losing family members, partners, children, getting glaucoma and going completely blind, cancer, everyone suffers and I know this doesn’t help you and I’m not undermining your suffering I’m just trying to help you with perspective as when we suffer our feelings and views become like tunnel vision and we fester until it consumes us. You’ve got a beautiful child and from past posts if I remember a very caring and loyal partner. I know it’s hard to give them the full you and be yourself (I fully understand) but please just hang in the we truly NEVER know what’s around the corner.
            I appreciate what you wrote. None of it made me feel like you were lessening my suffering. I just had these plans. I ****ed up my life. I waited to do things. I thought, that trip, I’ll take it with my daughter one day. Or even waiting to have my daughter. I did that thinking I’d be more mature and capable of being a better father but now I’m sick. I waited to but that convertible corvette, now I’m not sure I can own one. So my entire future just got shit on. I’m retired, have a beautiful wife and kid, all the money I ever need....and I cannot enjoy it properly because of this disease. One benefit of killing myself would be that my daughter gets my money before I spend any more of it. I’d rather her have a healthy father, but we apparently don’t get to choose our illnesses.

            I cant get over being a victim of life I’m upset about it. I wasn’t perfectly healthy by any means. But I was so god damn close I can’t understand how this happened. I ate 80% perfect the last 12 years, I worked out, I slept good took lots of naps, I thought I was being healthy. But this is genetic and had more to do with how I act in my sleep. You’re right, I couldn’t do anything about it. I think that makes it worse. I mean things I can change, I just find a way to change them. Things I can’t change. Well what do you do about that? You’re right, life set me on this path of which I had no control. It’s like playing a game where the rules change every 5 minutes. It’s maddening. I can’t control myself when I’m unconscious. All these things eat me up everyday. I’m doing ok for a while, then I just snap at my wife or whatever. I hate myself for that.

            which is why I can’t be kind to myself. I hate myself. I hate that I act the way I do, I hate that I do these things I can’t control...everyday I wake up and my right eye is sore to some degree from sleeping on it. I try all these things and still can’t fully prevent it. So what now, I can’t even sleep right, wtf? I’m glad it’s better. But I could be near perfect if I could just sleep right. But I’ll never be able to control myself in my sleep. So I’m this creature and I can’t even control myself. That’s odd, because I have this illusion that I’m in control, but I’m not. I’m a passenger in this ride with the illusion that I’m turning the wheel. That sucks too. because the reality is, I’m subject to whatever life hands me. I can’t really stop it. I can try and hope for the best which is again, scary.

            Heres whats crazier...THIS IS NOT THE WORST THING THATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME IN MY LIFE. There will be harder struggles ahead. What do I do then? If I can’t properly handle this. It’s not just the dry eye...I’m not great at being a human in general. I can’t handle this collapse of my body and mind. This is another reason suicide is attractive. End it now before it worse. I used to think dying young is bad. Not necessarily.

            Let me say, I didn’t sign up for this. I was born, I was not asked to be born. I’m here and I didn’t get the choice to be here. Now I’m entangled I’m this game where everyone loses. Some worse than others but we all lose. Why the **** would anyone want to play that game? I don’t play games that aren’t fair. And fair doesn’t mean pain free, it simply means fair. This isn’t fair. I was abused my whole life until I was 14. I didn’t ask for that either. I was born to extremely stupid people. I’m not meant for my family. They have no idea what I’m about at all. But my entire childhood was hard. I thought I would get a break. But nope.

            I dont see anyone with moisture chambers on. I see no one else with dry eye unless they’re over 60. I feel so ****ed it’s not even funny. Everyone says, well, we all have some illness we’re fighting. Sure. But some are better than others. I’d rather have damaged joints than this. I’d rather lose a limb than have this. At least I could read and watch tv without my eyes hurting. But again. We don’t get to choose our illness. Just a lot to deal with. And to think I had a daughter and now she’s going to have to deal with this suffering. Why have a child. You are lirerally just causing their suffering. They will one day get sick and die. So that’s what I brought to earth. Death. Because life is always accompanied by death and also suffering as you said.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by hopeful_hiker View Post
              I think people here are both struggling mentally with their disease but also in more pain then others. Could be neuropathy, could be bad clinical signs or higher sensitivity to pain.

              I had mediocre (i.e. painless but uncomfortable) to decent stretches that lasted two months. My blinking pain was almost gone or almost always gone. To my desperation somehow it returned. I was convinced I was over that part but unfortunately I was not. Oddly enough my days are now not just mediocre but sometimes very bad and sometimes really good. This Monday I had work in a 40-50% humidity place with my coworkers. Every blink was either scraping or hurting. I could not focus on anything. On Thursday I had a decent day and on Friday my blinks became smooth and painless.

              This is not the first time it happens. It is soul crushing to go between pain and being normal. I am wary of feeling better because I can’t trust the improvement to last but I try to enjoy it as much as I can without thinking ahead.

              I wrote a post similar to yours a few months back when I was feeling better. I was scared and anxious because once I surpassed a certain amount of days, I knew that falling back into pain will not be easy.

              Take one day at a time. No point in thinking about the future in detail. You compromise present by fear. Easier said then done, of course, I struggle all the time but I do remind myself to be here. Meditation can help. The book “You are not your pain” has both some interesting scientific info and guided meditation. Of course there is always headspace, too.

              In very stressful moments, I do this exercises when you pay attention to your senses: 5 things you hear, 5 things you see, 5 things you smell, etc. It helps me come back.

              Another thing. Staying occupied. I struggle with taming my thoughts but I can fill my days, especially when I am not with pain, with good memories and activities.

              Practical ideas. I fill a daily log with my symptoms, diet, activities, eye stressors, sleep details, medication. It helps me to at least stop speculating and making wrong claims about the past. I use Google forms for this.

              Perhaps, you can find a good therapist. I could not find one. I get annoyed and angry because they don’t know chronic pain. I would love to see someone who knows what it’s like.

              Finally, hope. I think that if you have good days with steroids or not, that means your body is capable of being almost normal and normal.

              Anyways, these are my thoughts.
              I can’t speak for others but I can speak for myself. I thought I had neuropathy and I 100% do not. Which makes me think. My pain could technically feel worse. Yet I perceived it to be one of the most painful eye conditions, neuropathy. I had some good reasons to believe it. I’m also not a doctor so thinking I could figure this out was also naive. So looking at this objectively. It seems like I’m not handling my MGD very well. Not to say MGD isn’t painful, it is. But my pint is, there aren’t many MGD patients on here in relation to how many there are in the population. So you’re right, it’s either not MGD and it’s worse, or it’s exactk what it is and I’m not handling it properly. For me it’s 100% the latter.

              i understand the crushing blows. Part of me even feels guilty posting that I’m doing well. Knowing that you and others are all still in a worse place than me. So I can’t even enjoy my healing. And that’s just one reason I can’t enjoy my healing.

              I have ave a great psychiatrist. But he’s at his end with me. He’s prescribed a drug that he believes will work and I won’t take it. I’m afraid of the side effect of Stevens Johnson. It’s rare, .01% of people taking the drug get it. But I have a rare eyelid disease. So saying something is rare isn’t helping to sell me on it. I believe if I took the drug it would work. I trust my psych. But I can’t get over the idea of getting Steven Johnson. If I just have dry eye, how would I deal with that? Not good. I would 100% end my life. No doubt I couldn’t live with the scars and pain.

              i just feel weak. Seems like everyone is a fighter except me. I went to UIC 4 times now to see Jain and get medicine. Every time I meet someone there worse than me. The thing that strikes me as odd is their attitude. One guy with gvhd said, well I’m alive and talking to you right? The rest is just little bullshit. Another woman had gvhd and sjogrens. She’s like man my eyes are just so frustrating. Isn’t that the understatement of the year. Then I just met another woman, extrenely sensitive to light, even with full sunglasses on. She said, ya know you just play the hand you’re dealt.

              All of of those people had such a great attitude. I feel like such an asshoe complaining. But then I still complain. Which is why I hate myself. I’m not strong. I act strong. It’s a lie. I’m a lie. This disease exposed that. My character is just garbage. Hard to realize that so suddenly.

              Thank you all for the replies. I know I may be fighting you guys on it, but im just trying to be honest about how I feel. I hope we can all move on from this one day soon. Get on with our next big challenge.

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              • #8
                Just wanted to share some good news I am aware of
                more and more doctors (in USA) now are learning dry eye - they have to,
                if they want to do Lasik, cataract, surgery etc
                without healthy ocular surface, they can not do op = no incomes.




                Last edited by MGD1701; 04-Dec-2018, 12:03.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MGD1701 View Post
                  Just wanted to share some good news I am aware of
                  more and more doctors (in USA) now are learning dry eye - they have to, if they want to do Lasik, other operations.
                  without healthy ocular surface, they can not do op = no incomes.




                  You say, they have to...not really. They do the procedures without proper screening all the time. What about eyelid disease? That’s just as important as ocular surface disease.

                  I think thar unless there there are regulations put in place, you will always have unethical doctors trying to just make a buck. We need a protocol and fda regulations AND recourse for the docutis thar don’t properly screen. You threaten someone with fines or jail time, that will motivate them I promise you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dowork123 View Post

                    First off, don’t worry about snapping at me or anyone. It’s totally fine, I get it. I’m not upset at all. I’ve snapped on a couple people here and I’m just waiting for the right time to apologize. I feeel like I have to get mentally stable first or I risk giving an apology and then doing it all over again. I hate that I do that.

                    As as for the MGD, I’d like to be hopeful. But I know for a fact they cannot find a singles treatment that cure all causes of MGD because they’re all different. The glands all malfunction for different reasons. One person has allergies, one person has a flopp eyelid and on person has rosacea...do you honstly believe they will have one single procedure or drug that will help all those people? I think they may have 20-30 different drugs and procedures one day, specific to each cause. But again, that is a long way off. If it were as simple as finding this one key that fits the lock, I agree, it would be hopeful.

                    Im not going to kill myself now. I just know that I’m always looking to escape. I use marijuana to escape my pain so that I can function. Essentially I use marijuana to be part of life. Because once I melt the stress, I can function. Otherwise, I’m too high strung to get anything done properly. My hope is that the medication, lamictal, will help with that. Maybe I can quit smoking weed. That would be awesome.


                    I'm just trying to give you some hope on mgd. I dont know how much of mgd related it will cover. I just thought it would be nice to inform you and tell you that there are people out there working on a better mgd treatment instead of ipl/lipiflow. It's a drop for mgd which is different. I get what you are going on about but its better news that anything else for mgd at the moment. I dont have much answers on auzras product but I tried to give you some hope seems it was futile in saying so.

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                    • #11
                      Yup. Agree 100% Dowork.

                      Any rational overview of living a terrible quality of life. And the understanding it probably will get worse. Its pretty frightening. If i were just getting started and trying new things. Thats one thing. But at 15+ doctors and still functionally disabled.

                      i think people are simply hardwired differently. There are very elderly people with terminal cancer on dozens of meds in terrible pain getting more surgeries and chemo and radiation so they can go on in terrible pain, bed ridden for a little while longer. That doesnt make any sense to me. But others might call me a monster. So i think its hardwired.

                      How do i change the way my brain works?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by edmunder View Post
                        Yup. Agree 100% Dowork.

                        Any rational overview of living a terrible quality of life. And the understanding it probably will get worse. Its pretty frightening. If i were just getting started and trying new things. Thats one thing. But at 15+ doctors and still functionally disabled.

                        i think people are simply hardwired differently. There are very elderly people with terminal cancer on dozens of meds in terrible pain getting more surgeries and chemo and radiation so they can go on in terrible pain, bed ridden for a little while longer. That doesnt make any sense to me. But others might call me a monster. So i think its hardwired.

                        How do i change the way my brain works?
                        To answer that question...drugs. Change your brain chemistry and you can be a completely different person. Also a scary thought. That all I am really, is just a bag of chemicals. But I agree...some people are just wired to want to live no matter what. I’m not that guy, quality over quantity.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dowork123 View Post

                          All of of those people had such a great attitude. I feel like such an asshoe complaining. But then I still complain. Which is why I hate myself. I’m not strong. I act strong. It’s a lie. I’m a lie. This disease exposed that. My character is just garbage. Hard to realize that so suddenly.

                          Thank you all for the replies. I know I may be fighting you guys on it, but im just trying to be honest about how I feel. I hope we can all move on from this one day soon. Get on with our next big challenge.
                          Strength takes different forms. Your ability to be so open and forthcoming about what you're going through is a strength. Your compassion towards and eagerness to help others on here proves your character is not garbage.

                          OTOH, yes you could be an asshole. But I can relate to most of what you write on here, so that would make me one too. So I'll go with you not being one..

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Meibum Ian View Post

                            Strength takes different forms. Your ability to be so open and forthcoming about what you're going through is a strength. Your compassion towards and eagerness to help others on here proves your character is not garbage.

                            OTOH, yes you could be an asshole. But I can relate to most of what you write on here, so that would make me one too. So I'll go with you not being one..
                            I appreciate you man. Just wish I agreed. I’m not present for my wife. Today she said, for my birthday, I want just one happy day start to finish. Where something doesn’t bother you. That makes me sad. We used to ask each other about our day and talk about everything. I can’t do that anymore. I’m so lost in my own mental hell i can’t participate. I told her tonight, I just keep thinking about how this is forever. And even though I’m good now, I am just looking at my daughter calculating how long I’ll live to see her grow. Every day I do that. I’m not the father or husband I want to be because of this. I could have been so much better, that gets me so much. I do t go out because I fear my eyes getting bad. So I don’t take my daughter out of the house as much as I should. That will only get worse. I feel unfit to give her the best life possible. I could go on. I’m just constantly sad, filled with guilt, ashamed, I just hate it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dowork123 View Post
                              I mean, how many people do you think have bad dry eyes?
                              To have a disabling case of it is pretty rare in the big scheme of things, which is one of the things that makes it so difficult.

                              Last edited by SAAG; 10-Jan-2022, 22:13.

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