Great news for those who suffer from pinguecula / ptegyrion !

[crev177]

Does anyone have any updates?

[michelle555]

i've been researching a lot about drug development lately and i am pretty sure that this drop has not even started clinical trials. they prob are in the pre trial phase where they believe they have got something and filed a patent. i believe we are a solid 5 years away from this drug coming to market if everything goes smoothly. of course, with drugs, that is a big IF.

Yes, but the difference here is that the drug they are working with has already been on the market for years and has been already proven safe so hopefully it will be produced quicker. Let's all cross our fingers. Why would they keep telling us it will be available for purchase soon? Ugh!!! Frustrating!!!!

[tim20112]

Hi steveyez, thanks for your response, I have read that article so many times now that I think I have memorized it lol. I just wasn't sure if they have done any testing besides the lady from the case report, I read the patent also and they did test the drops with more people but I don't know if those are the official trials or not.
I totally agree with you about the availability of the potential cure we have with this eyedrops, I just wish they were available already, I guess we have to be patients for the next months.

i've been researching a lot about drug development lately and i am pretty sure that this drop has not even started clinical trials. they prob are in the pre trial phase where they believe they have got something and filed a patent. i believe we are a solid 5 years away from this drug coming to market if everything goes smoothly. of course, with drugs, that is a big IF.

[crev177]

Hi Crev

If you read this article posted earlier in the thread it will explain a lot - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3995373/

You could say that a clinical trial of a sample size of 1 has happened but that's not the same as what the medical community classifies as a clinical trial

True i can understand people warning people about unproven treatments but i also have to applaud the seemingly genuine democratic choice that we potentially have here - I'm all for public safety but at the same time Im not so keen on banning something thats simply new if that makes any sense - driving people to buy products off eBay is potentially more dangerous than legal manufacture if and when that happens - that's my two pennys worth

Hi steveyez, thanks for your response, I have read that article so many times now that I think I have memorized it lol. I just wasn't sure if they have done any testing besides the lady from the case report, I read the patent also and they did test the drops with more people but I don't know if those are the official trials or not.
I totally agree with you about the availability of the potential cure we have with this eyedrops, I just wish they were available already, I guess we have to be patients for the next months.

[steveyez]

Hello,

Thank You for sharing the response you got. I just don't understand when they say: ''I do not yet know about the availability of clinical trials- that is dependent on a few factors that will reveal themselves also in the next couple of months."

Does that mean they haven't done any clinical trials yet?

Hi Crev

If you read this article posted earlier in the thread it will explain a lot - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3995373/

You could say that a clinical trial of a sample size of 1 has happened but that's not the same as what the medical community classifies as a clinical trial

True i can understand people warning people about unproven treatments but i also have to applaud the seemingly genuine democratic choice that we potentially have here - I'm all for public safety but at the same time Im not so keen on banning something thats simply new if that makes any sense - driving people to buy products off eBay is potentially more dangerous than legal manufacture if and when that happens - that's my two pennys worth

[crev177]

I want these eye drops sooooo bad!!!!!!!

[crev177]

Here's the response I got from Medinsight

"the first stage of being able to produce the drops will hopefully be finished after 2-3 months. I'm not sure how much beyond that it will take to make them available for purchase- it will depend on the manufacturing agreement arranged at that time.
I do not yet know about the availability of clinical trials- that is dependent on a few factors that will reveal themselves also in the next couple of months."

Not much Clearer unfortunately

Hello,

Thank You for sharing the response you got. I just don't understand when they say: ''I do not yet know about the availability of clinical trials- that is dependent on a few factors that will reveal themselves also in the next couple of months."

Does that mean they haven't done any clinical trials yet?

[michelle555]

Here's the response I got from Medinsight

"the first stage of being able to produce the drops will hopefully be finished after 2-3 months. I'm not sure how much beyond that it will take to make them available for purchase- it will depend on the manufacturing agreement arranged at that time.
I do not yet know about the availability of clinical trials- that is dependent on a few factors that will reveal themselves also in the next couple of months."

Not much Clearer unfortunately

I feel like medsight is giving everyone very different responses. I received and email a few months back stating that the drops would be available for purchase in two months (which would have made them available sometime in late July/early aug) when I emailed for an update she said production was stalled and that they should be done soon. This wait sucks!!! Medsight is located in the United States I believe which is where I am located, I'm not sure if that makes a difference in there responses or not.

[KateIre]

Here's the response I got from Medinsight

"the first stage of being able to produce the drops will hopefully be finished after 2-3 months. I'm not sure how much beyond that it will take to make them available for purchase- it will depend on the manufacturing agreement arranged at that time.
I do not yet know about the availability of clinical trials- that is dependent on a few factors that will reveal themselves also in the next couple of months."

Not much Clearer unfortunately

[No tears in ATL]

Glad to hear this is working for some but...ordering stuff off ebay to put in your eyes?? Please oh please be careful....this is scaring me a bit. There is all kinds of sketchy stuff from China on there...

[realMadridFTW]

Do you mean this one?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/330546441415?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I bought it too and waiting...

It looks good to me.
The powder should be yellow, and dissolve instantly as soon as the pH decreases.

[realMadridFTW]

For those who ask me if I can send them my own drops, it is not possible due to the French customs that would block the package.
However I can tell you how I made them:
You need:

1) Courage, because it's never easy to put something experimental in his eyes

2) A balance accurate to milligram

3) Ophthalmic saline

4) PH paper

5) The most important and the hardest to find: the pure powder dipyridamole

For the dipyridamole is dissolved must lower the ph .
The natural pH of tear fluid is 7.4; however, discomfort for the user Will not be felt as long as the pH of the administered medication stays in the ranks of 6.6-7.8
Beware, the dosage Must Be very accurate: 0.08 g per liter

[tim20112]

Well the patent is already published, there they go through all the clinical testing they do and the results they got.
If you want to check out the patent here is the link: http://www.google.com/patents/WO2014141079A1?cl=en

thanks. but i've been researching drug development quite a bit lately. normally the patent is the first thing that comes out. then it is years and years and years of trials and applications. i am just not sure they have even started clinical trials yet much less what most people are thinking (which is that they could come out with this product to the public any month) . but i hope i am wrong

[crev177]

can we be even certain that this product has passed clinical trials and is ready for fda application? i can't seem to find any clinical testing on it. also from the article it sounds like a few doctors in a lab experimenting and nothing officially tested in a trial yet. if something is going to be out in a few months or any day, that means it should already be with the FDA awaiting approval. fingers crossed.

Well the patent is already published, there they go through all the clinical testing they do and the results they got.
If you want to check out the patent here is the link: http://www.google.com/patents/WO2014141079A1?cl=en

[tim20112]

can we be even certain that this product has passed clinical trials and is ready for fda application? i can't seem to find any clinical testing on it. also from the article it sounds like a few doctors in a lab experimenting and nothing officially tested in a trial yet. if something is going to be out in a few months or any day, that means it should already be with the FDA awaiting approval. fingers crossed.