im using raw honey and im feel better

[needacure1991]

I have been tested for allergies and I have none...honey also has a anti inflamatory and healing properties. After reading about honey i have started my child on honey for her allergies! What the heck...it cant hurt.

Honey seems to reduce my inflamation on my lids...and lets my oil glands work for the first time in years....

I could be the only one that this works for ...but im sure there could be others and that is why i keep posting this...I would love one other person with stinging lids to try this...and tell me whether it helped them or not...someone try this for their stinging lids...and get back to me...please! Im trying to help here...like I said I cant possibly be the only one!

Regina, i have tried this once and my eyes felt soothed after applying it, but also sticky, during the night i woke up a couple of times with stinging eyelids and in the morning i washed the honey off and i had a little bit of relief from dry eyes, any tips on how to keep the honey from going inside my eyes? Thanks.

[Britta]

question @ chemia

:confused
Chemia, you`re certainly right about the facts and figures but what I donīt understand is how approx. three weeks of preservative-free artificial tears (ph certainly adapted to natural tears) could wreck my eyes whereas eight weeks of daily acid honey drops (honey diluted in ordinary boiled tap water) have given me so much relief. I`m honestly interested in any explanation. I took artificial tears for about three months trying different varieties (all of them preservative-free). They all made my eyes worse.
I am not encouraging anybody to put honey into their eyes. Too many people in this threat stated that honey had caused them much discomfort. However, no possible remedy should be discarded off-hand and for good just because we do not understand exactly how it works.
(Hi Regina, I am interested to learn what Doxy does for you. I still refrain from going on an antibiotic, but if it really meant a permanent/long lasting cure I`d give it second thoughts. Take care, Britta)

[Musetta]

There is lots of work that has been done using honey in wound dressings, in particular with burns and deep ulcers that don't respond to treatment. But that has been with manuka honey (and another kind- lepto something??). It seems to have broad spectrum antibiotic activities.

To quote from the link "Four aspects of the composition of honey have been identified to contribute to its antibacterial activity. The low water activity inhibits microbial growth, particularly bacterial growth. Its low pH, a result of the formation of gluconic acid, also has a mild antibacterial effect. When diluted with water, hydrogen peroxide is formed by the action of the enzyme glucose oxidase. Finally, some honeys contain other compounds, largely uncharacterised, that have antimicrobial activity."

Read here for more information http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/pdf/cmec/honeysr.pdf

For all that, I've tried manuka honey on my eyes in the past, and it was a disaster for me!! But it works brilliantly for sore throats and stomach upsets, and I find it a very soothing face masque if my skin is acting up.

[regina]

Oh cool...three people now!

I use honey if I somehow pissed off my eyes and they start stinging...I close my eyes and put in on my margins and it feels better. I also still use it nightly when I go to sleep. But thanks for the feedback and the links!

[avee]

I use honey too. Honey is an ancient remedy for eye problems, I don't believe it hurts unless you are allergic to it. Where I come from everyone has a friend who keeps honeybees. So far I've been using my own home-made honey but I just ordered my first manuka honey to try this out.

Just a few articles:
http://www.ibra.org.uk/articles/20080612_7
http://www.homestead.org/KarynSweet/HoneyHealth.htm
http://apitherapy.blogspot.com/2006/...-diseases.html

[regina]

taking doxy

Hi britta...Im taking doxy...and I am not having any bad effects from it. I figure...our eyes are so damaged that they need to heal fist in order to fully function again. I dont think short term will hurt you. There are a lot of people on here taking doxy so its proven okay to use especially short term. I am about 80 percent normal now....thank god! I am good everywhere but work now...I plan on staying on doxy till I dont see anymore improvement. I will keep you updated on my progress.

Again...imho honey seems to work for occular rosacea only...and only people who arent allergic to pollen...makes sense to me!

[Britta]

breaking my promise

I know I said I would not write in this threat anymore, but I cannot resist.
I have been taking manuka honey drops for one month and I still see steady improvement. 17 days ago I wrote I had to apply them every three hours, otherwise my eyes would burn. Now this is down to three times a day and often I have to remind myself of taking the drops as I completely forget about my eyes. Unfortunately, they are still redder than other people`s eyes, but they no longer get bloodshot in the evening. Yet my severe eye problems in autumn/winter made me humble, I`m not that vain anymore.

10 days ago I was finally diagnosed with ocular rosacea by my new eye doctor and he suggested doxy to me. I said I`d think about it and then looked into this stuff a bit. I found out that there is quite a long list of unpleasant side effects which really put me off and I don`t really feel like taking an antibiotic if it can be avoided. So I think I`ll stick to my honey for a bit longer before considering doxy. I have to admit that my eye doctor does not back this up as he does not know enough about honey to shoulder responsibility for it.

[regina]

Now it makes sense why it would work for me...

I believe I have occular rosacea with minor facial rosacea. If you research natural herbs for healing rosacea... quite a few of them has honey as one of their ingrediants. So, it does make sense that it reduced my inflamation on my lid margins and helped the oil glands flow but still was suffering from dry eye balls.

One day while recuperating from some minor surgery on cipro 500 mg twice daily , my eyes never felt so good! Hmm...why?

I looked up cipro and it is used as an anti biotic for skin infections... rosacea is a skin infection disease so it makes sense why it helped me so much. I am now starting my oral doxy. Dont know if its going to work as well as cipro but at least im heading in the right direction! Its not my thyroid, sjorgrens, or menopause its occular rosacea! At least i know which direction to head now treating this dry eye disease for me.....

[Arj]

Raw unfiltered honey actually has Hydrogen Peroxide in it, a powerful antimicrobial compound. It's basically highly reactive oxygen.. in wounds it keeps microbes away, speeding healing time, and also reduces scaring

Kinda odd, damage from Hydrogen Peroxide in contact lens solution started this whole Dry Eye saga for me, along with Doxycycline Hydrochloride. However it does sound plausible to me that a honey mixture of some sort can alleviate some of the pain. Honey can be used for a lot of other non eye related cures.

[Britta]

My last note on honey

This will be my last post on the honey thread.
First I want to admit that Rebecca and the others who intervened in order to prevent people from putting home-brewed liquids with particles we little know about into their eyes were absolutely right and I want to apologize for encouraging people to do this.
However, as I am still making considerable progress with honey I think it would be a pity if people gave honey a miss because of that. Please do talk with your doctors about manuka honey and let them look into its potential as well as possible risks.
I have been suffering from red burning eyes for a long time. It has been leaking its way into my life. Three or two years ago there was occasional discomfort at work or in the evening, one year ago that happened on a daily basis but not 24/7, since autumn 2009 it has changed my life. I have been to two doctors and their treatments made my eyes worse (anti-histamins/lubricating drops etc.). Since I have been applying manuka honey my eyes are constantly getting better. I donīt need any artificial tears anymore, there is hardly any burning left and they do not get that red anymore in the afternoon and evening. There are still some prominent veins in my eyes, maybe they have grown into the whites of my eyes and will stay there for good and I am not enthusiastic about them, but what was really bothering me was that sore looking redness that crept in every afternoon.
I have to apply the honey about every three hours. If I wait too long, my eyes become etchy again. The honey stings for a couple of minutes and then a very soothing effect sets in which lasts for about three hours. At the beginning my eyes got red for quite some time, this now is down to five minutes. I think, it takes control of the inflammation in my eyes.
I wrote this last post on Reginaīs honey cure because I would hate the idea that someone who could benefit missed out on this easy, low-cost, natural and accessible remedy. As most other treatments this one probably works only with certain cases but if anyone else was helped this thread would have made tweo people happy.

[regina]

lids look great...but i still have dry eye

I had extreme stinging pain in my eye lid margins. That has reduced to almost nil...but I still have dry eyes from not enough tears. I have had all four drains cauterized. So im gonna try the cyclosporine again. I tried it before and didnt help but maybe because i had no oil Now that I have oil..I need water to mix with.

At home with my humindifier at about 50 to 55, i am comfortable without drops or moisture goggles all day long! Now I suffer at work , gyms casinos and the sort. Outside is also wonderful for me.

[Mara]

honey

You said that your lids look great. Do your eyes also look and feel good?

[regina]

still using honey

I realize honey sounds out there. I would of course caution everybody on safety whether you are using a new drop you have never tried or even heating a rice bag in a microwave...google honey and then ask your doctor first. I think I am dealing with rosacea on my eyelids and rosacea is bothered by all types of foreign substances ingrediants. Eye drops were never good for me...heat didnt much for unplugging my oil glands it just felt good.

Yes I tried honey...and yes it worked and is still working. Its been 3 weeks and my lid margins are still a pretty light pink instead of beat red. I dont have to express my glands anymore...oil comes out freely. I am not the only one it worked for...there is also another member who is doing really really well.

To try it , you Probably shouldnt be allergic to pollen...you dont need to put it in your eye..close your eye tight...and apply it to your eyelash margins. You probably shouldnt have other eye problems...This would be for people with rosacea or sjorgrens... but again ask your doctor..using honey is not new...and it has helped 2 people on here which is really not bad!

Considering all the chemicals that are in eye drops we freely put in our eyes...and the people who wear eye makeup made up from who knows what...i dont think honey is so far out there in the danger zone...but then what do i know!

Again ask your doctor and bring him some info from the internet if he knows nothing about it.

good luck all and yes of course be careful!

[Lucy]

I want to say I agree with Rebecca (for what that is worth). If nothing else, I have been at the dry eye business for 10 years and have seen many "cures" come and go. None have stayed, or we wouldn't be here still coming up with new things.

I can't disagree that it's very tempting to try new things we hear about. I have tried a couple of odd things, but never put in my eyes directly. Let's say some exotic tea as in hot drink.

If six people grab on to what one or two people say, and mix up some sort of potion to put in their eyes, it will almost likely be comtaminated. You say to mix water, etc. Even with sterile products, it's easy to comtaminate. Good luck to anyone trying this. I would not do it myself. I am about as hard up as one can be after this long and having Sjogrens, which does not get better with time, at least as far as the eyes go. Please be careful Lucy

[Rebecca Petris]

I don't know anything about use of honey in the eye so I've hesitated to comment about it in this thread. But I know what it's like here, people will grab at anything that seems to help anybody anywhere, so I want to just interject some caution again.

Please, always employ careful consideration and use common sense before following any suggestions put forward by any user of this forum no matter what their personal results have been. I personally would urge people not to put anything in their eyes that their doctor does not approve of or anything non sterile. If your doctor isn't open minded enough to explore alternative solutions when what they have to offer isn't cutting it, get another one. If you don't like western medicine (not crazy about it myself) get a naturopath in addition to your eye doctor if your eye doctor does nothing but drugs. But however you do it, don't go it on your own when it comes to stuff you put in your eyes.

A dry eye is, obviously, an unhealthy, vulnerable eye that is not well equipped to deal with things that could harm it.